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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by layer8 » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

No MagSafe, only Qi (not Qi2).

800 nits typical brightness vs. 1000 for the 16, 1200 nits maximum brightness vs. 1600–2000 nits.

Notch vs. dynamic island, of course.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by re-thc » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

> 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14

No MagSafe here

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by SunlitCat » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

kemayo wrote: post #18

Let's see... it's replacing the SE, which is no longer on Apple's website. It's more expensive than the SE, at $599 vs $429. It's a pretty substantial hardware upgrade over the SE, including something like 75% more battery life by Apple's numbers, but it's also noticeably bigger. Apple's own comparison tool is useful: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16e,i...

The price hike is the major turn off point. Even as a non Apple person I was on the verge of getting the new "SE" if it's in the price range of the old SE line up.

But not for 600 USD, that's a bit too much.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by kylec » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:39 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #88

lapcat wrote: post #14

iPhone SE: $429, 4.7-inch display, 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29, 5.09 ounces iPhone 16e: $599, 6.1-inch display, 5.78 x 2.82 x 0.31, 5.88 ounces This is a major downgrade in every way for people who want the smallest possible iPhone.

It's basically 6% longer, wider, and thicker. I like small phones. 6% doesn't seem all that different from the current SE. The fact that all that space seems to be going to battery life does seem nice...

Those 6% increases compound together though to create something with 20% more volume, that is pretty substantial

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by lofaszvanitt » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:39 PM UTC

cynicalpeace wrote: post #64

How possible is it for there to be a "disruptor" to the smartphone market? I think Apple's selling point is the app ecosystem, but I personally don't use apps all that much. Just a few big ones and they're all just for communication: FB Messenger, WhatsApp, SIM, SnapChat. And the web browser, maps. I'm 27. Why can't someone just manufacture a screen, some buttons, little computer, then software for communication and…

There are a few innovations that would level them...

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Wistar » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:39 PM UTC

js2 wrote: post #71

doctoboggan wrote: post #20

Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.

> I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple. That really ended with the 13 mini on which I'm typing this comment and that I'll hold onto till it's no longer supported.

I have been keeping my 12 Mini in as pristine condition as possible. I often keep the phone in my vest pocket and really hate the size of … well … anything larger than the Mini. Best form factor ever for me.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Angostura » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:40 PM UTC

jjice wrote: post #106

batata_frita wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great description. But what is UWB?

Ultra Wide Band - it's how AirTags and other things give you that precise finding feature, I believe.

The UWB ommission is a bit sad - I have it on my 13 Mini and it's very handy for finding lost keys. Still, I guess segmenters going to segment

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by cynicalpeace » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #127

cynicalpeace wrote: post #64

How possible is it for there to be a "disruptor" to the smartphone market? I think Apple's selling point is the app ecosystem, but I personally don't use apps all that much. Just a few big ones and they're all just for communication: FB Messenger, WhatsApp, SIM, SnapChat. And the web browser, maps. I'm 27. Why can't someone just manufacture a screen, some buttons, little computer, then software for communication and…

What would a disruptor in the smartphone space even do in 2025? It's not like the status quo phones are too expensive, too small or too slow compared to the average user's use case. There is a phone for every price point, and at worst you'll be stuck with a bad camera or a laggy chipset. There are already phones running Linux and de-Googled OSes (Purism, Librem, LineageOS). They won't ever get big enough to challenge…

Maybe it could be the Juul to Apple's Phillip Morris?

Phones occupy the same space as nicotine in my head, so why not explore that comparison?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Angostura » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

js2 wrote: post #71

doctoboggan wrote: post #20

Is this a replacement for the "SE" line? It seems similar to the previous SE models in that it's cheaper, uses an older body, and is released in an off month. The marketing copy in the OP also compares it to the older SE phones. I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple.

> I am guessing that's the end of the small phone line at Apple. That really ended with the 13 mini on which I'm typing this comment and that I'll hold onto till it's no longer supported.

Same here. I'm hoping there will be a 19 mini

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #75

It is an iPhone 16, inside iPhone 14 Body, Single Camera from iPhone 16, with iPhone 14 OLED Screen, Apple Modem, Without UWB, Minus 1 GPU Core on A18, 7.5W MagSafe Charging same as iPhone 14. Wifi 6 instead of Wifi 7 on iPhone 16. However at $599, higher than the rumoured $499 or $549 pricing. iPhone 14 previously at $599 and iPhone SE at $429 are now gone. Getting rid of iPhone 14 and iPhone SE as they are both usi…

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