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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by wood_spirit »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #310
Arainach wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you assume no footage exists? Why do you assume that any footage the tower has should be released to the public immediately?

Well, it seems that there have been several crashes over the last few years where no on-site footage surfaced... whether there's any of this one or not.

Footage existing and footage being released to the public are two different things.

I understand there is a public Voyeur interest in seeing crashes, but how does releasing footage of accidents aid investigation or safety outcomes?

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Post by hanche »

YuukiRey wrote: post #170

It's always interesting to follow the discussions on PPRuNe https://www.pprune.org/accidents-close-calls/664303-delta-cr... Unverified reports by another pilot are that the plane struck a wing then sort of cart wheeled

Indeed. Likely a wing tip strike, the right wing was ripped off, then the left wing is of course still flying so its lifting force rolls the plane over until that wing hits the ground. I think it stayed attached, so after that, the plane just slid to a stop. Edit: Saw a video, looks like the pilot flying failed to flare so they just hit the ground really hard but wings level, probably the landing gear collapsed. Not clear what caused the right wing to be removed. In any case, the plane left the frame so you couldn’t see what happened next.

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Post by muddi900 »

SapporoChris wrote: post #301
DidYaWipe wrote: post #282

It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

"You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video." Wait! Tell us about your experiences with catalytic converters! Also, I've flown a lot of Korean Airlines flights where they have front, down and side view cameras that you can watch on the entertainment console. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before more airlines adopt it.

This is about 20 years old tech.

Most cabins today have CCTV cameras on board.

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Post by muddi900 »

guardiangod wrote: post #5

That's incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped everyone get out of the upside, burning plane.

No fatalities. I believe there were some injuries.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #283
brailsafe wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like an awfully fanciful idea for anywhere but places with the most dense rail networks per sq km, at least if we're talking a full-scale refactor of existing infrastructure, in terms of financial, physical, logistics. Is it not somewhat true that rail/freight companies have more authority over the land that their lines run through than the regions do? I may be talking out of my ass here, but I feel cities…

In what way is it fanciful? There's an extensive network of interstates in the US with nearly zero intersections. If it's viable for I-90 why isn't it viable for the equivalent rail line?

If you don’t mind losing I-90 for car use, you could just repurpose the right of way. Otherwise, you just need to build another I-90 for HSR, well, it wouldn’t need to be as wide, you probably could do more tunneling and viaducting through the mountains so it doesn’t slow down much like the real I-90 does. But in Seattle, I don’t think there is room for another new right of way, so you have to tunnel or somehow run it down the middle of the freeway (and forget about lake Washington, you would need a new floating bridge unless you could stomach the slowness of going around.

All can be solved with lots of money (and the space issues can be solved with even more money).

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Post by paul7986 »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #314
paul7986 wrote: post #13

Damn so many airplane crashes in the last 12 months ... pretty sure a lot more then the norm!

yep, it's caused by Baader–Meinhof

It's the democratic deep state crashing them to make Trump look bad ... HA

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Post by hilux »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #282

It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

There is footage.
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