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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by DidYaWipe »

gnatman wrote: post #298
DidYaWipe wrote: post #282

It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

There’s a video posted elsewhere in this discussion [0]. Looks like the plane landed incredibly hard and the gear buckled. Extreme wind shear? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1is1qoy/video_of_...

Thanks for the link.

Yes, that's technically video I guess, but it's trash and doesn't look like the camera was set up to capture takeoffs and landings. More like a utility shed and road... at '90s webcam frame rates and quality.

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abenga wrote: post #278
zubiaur wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a longer version that shows the inside of the plane. The flight attendant decisively and composedly ushering the passengers off the (upside down) plane. Hats off. https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1891632984500904441/video/1

I have a lot of antipathy towards the passengers who are getting out with their backpacks; if one takes the time to pick up their stuff they are probably in the way, take more time getting out, and could cause the death of other passengers or staff.

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Post by jameslk »

bsimpson wrote: post #269

It's wild to me that this is at the top of Hacker News, but not even on the Google News front page. I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.

> I feel like major airline crashes are usually headlines.

The problem is everyone seems to have survived

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by blahlabs »

gnatman wrote: post #298
DidYaWipe wrote: post #282

It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

There’s a video posted elsewhere in this discussion [0]. Looks like the plane landed incredibly hard and the gear buckled. Extreme wind shear? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1is1qoy/video_of_...

That link seems to have been taken down by reddit mods now.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

tonfa wrote: post #274
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, the only cost is money and space, but you can make your own space if you don’t mind viaducts everywhere.

Don't know how it is in the US, but it's similar for cars, highways don't cross small routes either there's typically a (small) bridge involve (no need for viaduct).

Limited access, freeways in crowded areas take space, hence my point about viaducting (or tunneling) to create more space. But ya, if you pay for the spaces of the bridges over the freeway through your downtown urban area, you can also do that with a train if you have more space for it (or tunnel the train under). China just doesn’t have that kind of space, which is why you see viaducts everywhere in cities like Shanghai or Beijing.

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Post by treyd »

gnatman wrote: post #298
DidYaWipe wrote: post #282

It's mystifying that any airport with commercial service doesn't have cameras with a full view of every runway recording 100% of the time. You can't steal a catalytic converter without being on video. We have webcams placed behind eagles' nests in our national parks. Yet somehow we have no recordings of plane crashes at our airports. Then of course there's the lack of cameras on the planes themselves...

There’s a video posted elsewhere in this discussion [0]. Looks like the plane landed incredibly hard and the gear buckled. Extreme wind shear? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1is1qoy/video_of_...

That post was removed by the /r/aviation mods so (at least on mobile) it can't be viewed directly on the new UI. But if you switch to old.reddit.com it's still there.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by lmm »

School-Cotton wrote: post #284
lmm wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> air transport is more suitable for medium to long distance, such as this Minneapolis-Toronto route. Eh maybe. That's not much longer than Beijing-Shanghai. Rail can definitely be competitive. > The accident occurred on the ground Plane crashes generally do. Given that all plane journeys involve at least one takeoff and landing, it's fair to consider collisions and incidents during those as part of a safety comparis…

Can you really not imagine any reason why world-class rail between Beijing and Shanghai is more feasible than between Minneapolis and Toronto?

If you want to say something then say it. No, I don't think there's any particular physical reason for that; I think the poor state of north american passenger rail is almost entirely for political reasons and could be changed if the public had the will to improve it.
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