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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by petschge »

voisin wrote: post #116
alistairSH wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a report that it was after touchdown. I’m guessing wind, ice, or something else moved the plane off the centerline and into a crab, it hooked a wheel off the pavement, and cartwheeled. 100% conjecture at this point, just seems like a possible chain of events.

Toronto Pearson had wind gusts of 60km/h today. Edit: listing to the ATC audio I think they said gusts in the 30s (man do they ever speak fast and mumble! Enunciate damn it! Unique New York), which is markedly slower than what the Apple Weather app reported for Pearson.

Remember that ATC will give wind speeds in knots, not km/h.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by noirbot »

screye wrote: post #135

Lots of recent incidents with regional bombardier jets. First DC, now this. Have there been any recent with major commercial jets yet ?

I don't know much, but my guess would be that smaller planes are more prone to both of these issues? The DC problem was a collision between pilots who didn't see each other in time, which seems more likely with a smaller plane, and this seems to be because of wind/traction, which also seems like it would be more likely with a less heavy/large plane?

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Post by weaksauce »

screye wrote: post #135

Lots of recent incidents with regional bombardier jets. First DC, now this. Have there been any recent with major commercial jets yet ?

a regional is a major airline if not in name but in practice. they contracted out for delta and are considered commercial aviation for the statistics. they had 80 people on board which is still quite a lot of people... smaller than a 777 sure but still a large bird.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by ceejayoz »

WalterBright wrote: post #139
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have the video, they’re just not in a rush to release it to grumps like you :)

We'll see. How come we never see tower video of other crashes?

We do?

https://people.com/new-video-dc-plane-crash-shows-final-seco... was an airport camera, IIRC.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by culi »

thegrim33 wrote: post #33
HPMOR wrote: post #17

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_accidents_and_in... Seems to instantly prove you wrong ..

If anyone's wondering. Based on the link we have,

Fatalities:

  2025: 77 (2 fatal accidents)
  2024: 0
  2023: 0
  2022: 10 (1)
  2021: 0
  2020: 9 (1)
  2019: 7 (2)
  2018: 1 (1)
  2017: 0
  2016: 0
  2015: 0
  2014: 0
  2013: 13 (2)
  2012: 0
  2011: 0
  2010: 0
We do indeed seem to be having a particularly bad year. It's only February of 2025 and there's been more than double the total deaths than in the past decade

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by culi »

lmm wrote: post #111
HPMOR wrote: post #17

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What? 346 people died in the two 737 MAX crashes in 2019 and 2020, but I guess three people getting injured is a lot more major since it happened in the country next door to the only country that counts.

I think they mean in the US specifically

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by bombcar »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #142
apercu wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea. Totally man. A country in which I am a citizen. But an American airline and in a time where aspects of society are trying to deregulate everything. (maybe I should qualify all of my internet comments that I spent 29 years in the US, then 18 years in Canada, and now like 2 years back in the US. Would that help?)

No. What would help is explaining why the US laying off people in the FAA causes a crash in Toronto, Canada. Your citizenship and residence don't matter. Your lack of an explanation on that point matters. It renders your initial claim invalid. I mean, look, there may be reason to suspect that certain US incidents are related to the layoffs and chaos. But this article isn't about a US incident, and what you're saying…

Canada is the 51st state now, and all their weather control machines were defunded causing wind and temperature spikes.

Clearly. You just need to see how it all ties together, man.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Post by readyplayernull »

ceejayoz wrote: post #153
WalterBright wrote: post #118

I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it. Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport. If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24/7, why can't a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?

Video is making the rounds on Reddit now. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1irzxq...

Standard UFO-sighting footage.
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