I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
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Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#42I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
This is a very strong first world POV. Those U$D 300 rank pretty high across world's minimum salaries [1], not to mention that prices can very likely double in countries like my own.
Moreover, a large % of people that can really get a very good use of this (Kids in high school) usually have a lot less money at their disposal, and we are not getting into collaterals like building your own and learning how it works.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_minimum_w...
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#43I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#44Mandatory caveat: beware of ground loops when using a USB oscilloscope! Most budget USB scopes share ground with your PC via the USB port. If you're probing high-voltage circuits (e.g., mains power, switching supplies), this can create a dangerous potential difference, risking damage to your computer or worse. Some scopes offer isolated inputs, but if yours doesn’t, use differential probes or an isolation transformer…
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there's a difference in options at $200/$20/$2 (see elsewhere in this thread) just in lowering the bar to entry to the point of triviality. I'm not spending $300 without knowing exactly what I want it for, $20 is easy, $2 is an impulse buy.
Fair enough, but on the flip side - you either want to get into electronics or not. If not, there's no real point in spending the money, even if it's $2. If you do, then you probably don't yet have an understanding of what features you need, and the cheapest option will actually hold you back. Some specific issues: first, the number of inputs. A lot of circuit debugging is about "let's see how signal A looks like whe…
As as others have pointed out before, there's just no alternatives in this form factor. The scope is tiny, and for what it is it packs quite a punch. 3.3V and 5V are standard logic levels which will suffice for quite a lot of basic probing. Being made for students, it does likely everything that would be required of it in an educational environment. How well this pans out in real-life we'll see soon.
Granted that with enough money and space at hand there are much better options out there.
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#46I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
- 12 bit ADC frontends
- Actually usable touchscreen inputs
- Super simple to drive remotely over a network connection (though getting the IP address with just the touchscreen is a little tricky)
- USB-C power input - you can run it from a battery pack if you like!
- All the essential decoders built in for free (I2C, SPI, UART)
- VESA Mountable - I got a monitor arm to gain back some desk space (awesome feature)
- Very, very easy to hack one of the budget models and upgrade it to a 250MHz model :D
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think there's a difference in options at $200/$20/$2 (see elsewhere in this thread) just in lowering the bar to entry to the point of triviality. I'm not spending $300 without knowing exactly what I want it for, $20 is easy, $2 is an impulse buy.
Fair enough, but on the flip side - you either want to get into electronics or not. If not, there's no real point in spending the money, even if it's $2. If you do, then you probably don't yet have an understanding of what features you need, and the cheapest option will actually hold you back. Some specific issues: first, the number of inputs. A lot of circuit debugging is about "let's see how signal A looks like whe…
It's fuzzier than that; there are hobbies that look fun but I can't decide if I want to fully invest into them, but having a cheap, but not-great equipment is a good stepping stone. Besides, beginners won't have the skill to fully use fully-featured pro-level-gear. A cheap soldering iron is great for those looking to get their feet wet; sure the lack of precise temperature control can be a hinderance, but investing in an expensive soldering station is wasteful if one decides that it's not really for them.
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#48I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
> very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 This is a very strong first world POV. Those U$D 300 rank pretty high across world's minimum salaries [1], not to mention that prices can very likely double in countries like my own. Moreover, a large % of people that can really get a very good use of this (Kids in high school) usually have a lot less…
Want to keep a distractable 14 year old busy for an hour? Give him or her some wire, a cheap meter, a battery, some switches and LEDs. Want to possibly change that kid’s life? Give him the above, plus a scope, and hook it up to a music player playing his favorite song.
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#49I think projects like that would have been a godsend 2-3 decades ago, when even a basic oscilloscope costed as much as a used car. Nowadays, very good oscilloscopes with 200 MHz bandwidth, good user interfaces, and responsive displays are selling for $300 - I'm talking Siglent, Rigol, UNI-T. So the merits of DIYing something much worse just aren't quite there. It's that one piece of equipment you use to troubleshoot…
It’s a matter of perspective, though. For a white collar professional in the US? Sure. For most of the world’s population, the distinction between $300 and $18 is extremely consequential.
Re: Flea-Scope: $18 Source Available USB Oscilloscope, Logic Analyzer and More [pdf]
#50For comparison, this is what $2 USB scope (800ksps, 2 voltage ranges) look like: https://files.catbox.moe/0t0dq3.jpg
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