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US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by tremendoussss »

mschuster91 wrote: post #250
someothherguyy wrote: post #201

If anything this whole DOGE scenario has illuminated is how confused and overconfident many in this country are. We are stumbling fools without systems and rules (organizations, institutions, laws, regulations, ...) to rely on. I wonder how much behavior like this stems from weak regulation in the US to begin with. It seems like it would reinforce the rise of agents that assume they can ask for forgiveness after acti…

> We are stumbling fools without systems and rules (organizations, institutions, laws, regulations, ...) to rely on. The wide masses yes - the 1% who is looking to profit immensely from the upcoming chaos not. DOGE is not about trimming government costs, it is about allowing the large companies to rip off the masses without repercussions (e.g. the planned demise of CFPB or OSHA/DoL) and it is about preparing the tran…

I think if you looked at the history of the global economy and geopolitics since 1970 or 1900 pre Federal Reserve, I think you could make an argument that the dystopia that you're worried about already exists.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by rayiner »

bix6 wrote: post #321
rayiner wrote: post #291

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It also refers to a political faction in the electorate, comprising about 11% of voters, that has interests and values aligned with that group: https://www.ncronline.org/opinion/ncr-voices/what-if-we-had-.... E.g. knowledge workers who benefit from globalization and upper middle class people who benefit from cheap labor provided by illegal immigrants.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by hermitcrab »

grandempire wrote: post #328
hermitcrab wrote: post #316

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It is significantly worse the most pundits predicted.

I would do a quick google search of Brexit news articles with the year 2016.

I was living in the UK at a time. Nobody worth listening to was predicting war or famine.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by redserk »

coldtea wrote: post #326
hermitcrab wrote: post #316

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It is significantly worse the most pundits predicted.

Not tied to failing and increasingly irrelevant EU? What is significantly worse, is the governing clases continuing the same pre-Brexit policies and deals post-Brexit, to nullify it.

The UK is becoming a destination country for hiring low-cost services labor. Not exactly an endorsement of future success.

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Post by drawkward »

lokimedes wrote: post #285
gambiting wrote: post #271

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Well, Brexit took the spot previously. Not sure if US can top it, but they sure as hell trying.

You have go go back to the collapse of the British empire to witness anything this grand. And that was driven by external factors.

This is Russia driven. Its right out of Aleksandr Dugin's playbook for Russian political dominance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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Post by throwaway173738 »

ty6853 wrote: post #234
Cyph0n wrote: post #204

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> and it's usually easily undone Because employees are automatons that have no feelings and won’t hold a grudge.

Sorry, they are servants of the public. Maybe they ought not have been fired, but their feelings are 2nd place when their salary is funded predicated on men with guns forcing people to pay up. Maybe my feelings are hurt and I hold a grudge for being forced to pay their paycheck rather than spend that money on my family, but I'm nearly certain most of them don't care nor does much of HN.

I take it you’d also be fine paying 100% of the cost of the roads you use to buy food for your family? Men with guns take money from my family to pay for your roads after all.

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Post by throwaway173738 »

scarab92 wrote: post #352
nickpeterson wrote: post #301

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These firings will have no impact on your taxes. Instead of people having a job, the money will just get given to oligarchs and you’ll pay largely the same taxes but have moderately less government services. Socialism is needed to some degree for society to function. Capitalism alone is an awful system.

So, basically, left wing conspiracy theories? In reality, whether taxes fall or not likely depends on whether the savings are returned in the form of income tax cuts, or whether the savings are used to repay the massive debt that has accumulated from decades of deficits. Both outcomes are good in the long run.

I hope you’re right, but I suspect you’ll be wrong. I think Obama was the last president to shrink the national debt. Clinton did before that.

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Post by gcr »

tremendoussss wrote: post #381
mschuster91 wrote: post #250

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> We are stumbling fools without systems and rules (organizations, institutions, laws, regulations, ...) to rely on. The wide masses yes - the 1% who is looking to profit immensely from the upcoming chaos not. DOGE is not about trimming government costs, it is about allowing the large companies to rip off the masses without repercussions (e.g. the planned demise of CFPB or OSHA/DoL) and it is about preparing the tran…

I think if you looked at the history of the global economy and geopolitics since 1970 or 1900 pre Federal Reserve, I think you could make an argument that the dystopia that you're worried about already exists.

The point is that it’s worth fighting, not whether the end goal is attainable.

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Post by SauciestGNU »

scarab92 wrote: post #356
bix6 wrote: post #335

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Almost 10 years later and still no pitchforks?

We're seeing a significant rise in left-wing conspiracy theories though, which is not a great sign for the future.

Conspiracy theories? Can you elaborate?

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by drawkward »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #50

[dupe] Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43055119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43063512 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43061481

It is as though the community wants to discuss this, but bad actors keep shutting down the conversation.
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