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Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by soulofmischief »

pjmlp wrote: post #26
10729287 wrote: post #2

I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

I just want to draw lines and geometric shapes, without having to deal with paths, like in any other sane graphical program. Has this been finally sorted out?

Inkscape is an SVG editor. It's in the name. I for one love having a tool with semantics so close to the format, instead of dealing with Illustrator's nonsense. Sometimes Illustrator is the right tool, but as a web developer, Inkscape is the only sane tool for manipulating SVG.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by dsego »

f1shy wrote: post #18
ludston wrote: post #12

As is tradition, all threads about an open source project must be kicked off with non-contributers putting shit on it unconstructively.

Fact of life: those who never do a thing, so never do something wrong, easily criticize those who actually do things, because of course, they don’t do all perfectly, and do make mistakes.

This software has been around for almost 30 years now and is always sold as this photoshop killer and praised by open-source zealots. It's become like a religion, they can't take constructive criticism, they don't listen to feedback and if you say anything bad, oh it's easy to criticize. But sometimes a piece of software is just bad in many different ways, and over promising and trying to gaslight users into believing it's a suitable commercial software replacement is dishonest and results in a frustrating experience for newcomers.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by robinsonb5 »

4k93n2 wrote: post #11
10729287 wrote: post #2

I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

gimp became way less annoying once i discovered the command pallette (the forward slash key), you can pretty much do everything with it. i even use it to switch tools sometimes sinces its easier than trying to look through all the tool icons or having to long press them

Thanks for that - I've been using GIMP regularly more than two decades and didn't know about that trick!

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by f1shy »

krapp wrote: post #25
n3storm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also remember for million time they will never use it because it doesn't have exact keys as their proprietary contents kidnapper software.

I don't know... it seems to me that most of the complaints about Gimp come from people who actually use it, because people who never use it wouldn't have anything to complain about. It also seems odd to assert that non-contributors have no right to complain on a forum where most people, most of the time, complain about things they have no direct knowledge of nor a hand in making.

>> most people, most of the time, complain about things they have no direct knowledge of nor a hand in making

I certainly see it very differently, or I would not lose time here. Indeed here is full of makers and doers. People that did things, open source, or founded a company, or something else. Also lots of knowledgeable people. Of course, is some share of charlatans, specially in medical topics, is a show… but in general I do learn here.

I think you can “criticize” if you are not contributing, but form is important. One thing is to say “I don’t like it, you shouldn’t use it” another is “I use it, and I would love feature XY”

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by amlib »

Theizestooke wrote: post #15
prox wrote: post #5

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I would love Gimp to succeed but Gimp is made by coders for coders (as you might expect from a open source program) and not by visual artists for visual artists. I don’t have a lot of hope. For years I have been using Affinity and it’s been really good, haven’t looked back. Unfortunately it’s not on linux.

They could start with a name change.

Yes, I suggest they change it to... The Pimp

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by dahousecat »

ritonlajoie wrote: post #16

Side question : can an LLM which nas no idea of how to write plugins for Gimp ingest this page (and the links to the C api and Python api) and write code by itself ?

If you already understand all the documentation and can prod an LLM in the correct direction every time it does something stupid then probably.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by snvzz »

archerx wrote: post #14
10729287 wrote: post #2

I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

Try Krita, it’s free, opensource and what gimp should have been all along.

Different focus.

Krita is for free drawing, gimp is a photoshop replacement.

I do agree they probably would benefit from trying Krita.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by deknos »

instagraham wrote: post #23
ludston wrote: post #12

As is tradition, all threads about an open source project must be kicked off with non-contributers putting shit on it unconstructively.

At the same time, GIMP is remarkably not-geared at serious designers/non-codey folk. A simple fix would be to ask professionals using the Adobe suite what they would like in an open source tool that could get them to switch. Viewed at from outside, Adobe may appear like a multi-billion dollar moat of focus on prosumer products. Viewer from as a user, Adobe's software has bugs and inefficiencies that would get the ave…

if it's so easy, fork and build it :)

"Seamless vector/PDF editing" seems especially easy.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Post by threeducks »

snvzz wrote: post #38
archerx wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try Krita, it’s free, opensource and what gimp should have been all along.

Different focus. Krita is for free drawing, gimp is a photoshop replacement. I do agree they probably would benefit from trying Krita.

I often hear that Krita has a different focus, but does it lack anything that GIMP has? (disregarding obscure features like bell pepper brush)
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