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Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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> As with GIMP 2.10, GIMP 3.0 ships with a Python interpreter embedded and will not use the system Python. This is great and I wish this was the same with other tools, like Kicad, Freecad and Inkscape.

Kicad brings its own Python and is fully interfaceable.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #12

As is tradition, all threads about an open source project must be kicked off with non-contributers putting shit on it unconstructively.

Fact of life: those who never do a thing, so never do something wrong, easily criticize those who actually do things, because of course, they don’t do all perfectly, and do make mistakes.

Also remember for million time they will never use it because it doesn't have exact keys as their proprietary contents kidnapper software.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #12

As is tradition, all threads about an open source project must be kicked off with non-contributers putting shit on it unconstructively.

At the same time, GIMP is remarkably not-geared at serious designers/non-codey folk.

A simple fix would be to ask professionals using the Adobe suite what they would like in an open source tool that could get them to switch. Viewed at from outside, Adobe may appear like a multi-billion dollar moat of focus on prosumer products.

Viewer from as a user, Adobe's software has bugs and inefficiencies that would get the average open source product shredded in the comments. It is ludicrous that Adobe still charges for such bad Ux.

Of the top of my head, I'd say GIMP could get a headstart on Adobe if its builders added:

- n00b user Ux option

- Single panel modes for color correction with all settings in the form of a list of sliders (like lightroom)

- Seamless vector/PDF editing so you don't need to bounce between 3 different softwares

- Good UI for an InDesign competitor (this is a moat that Canva could easily crush if it added a few more options - but it's still worth building). Automatic layout (would really only need to follow a few simple rules - don't overhang text, match formatting, worship whitespace so the user doesn't have to break everything to add it back in).

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fact of life: those who never do a thing, so never do something wrong, easily criticize those who actually do things, because of course, they don’t do all perfectly, and do make mistakes.

Also remember for million time they will never use it because it doesn't have exact keys as their proprietary contents kidnapper software.

I don't know... it seems to me that most of the complaints about Gimp come from people who actually use it, because people who never use it wouldn't have anything to complain about.

It also seems odd to assert that non-contributors have no right to complain on a forum where most people, most of the time, complain about things they have no direct knowledge of nor a hand in making.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

I just want to draw lines and geometric shapes, without having to deal with paths, like in any other sane graphical program.

Has this been finally sorted out?

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #4

> As with GIMP 2.10, GIMP 3.0 ships with a Python interpreter embedded and will not use the system Python. This is great and I wish this was the same with other tools, like Kicad, Freecad and Inkscape.

Doesn't Inkscape use its own python? I feel like I've found its python a couple times when searching for venvs on windows

For me on Arch Linux, Inkscape definitely doesn’t ship with its own Python. and its source code suggests to me [0] that it shells out to any Python (or Perl, or Ruby, or shell) that it can find on the PATH.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/blob/5c4c6d116dae5250...

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

It isn't alternative to photoshop though, what about darktable ( https://www.darktable.org/ )? I could be wrong but it is more of an alternative to lightroom afaik. Have you used?

Thanks for the suggestion. I've never been really into the "catalog" apps, starting from itunes. Always been more of a winamp guy ;) I like to browse my files from the explorer and not having to deal with a software to navigate or a software to catalog files and corrupting my filetree.

I've been using gimp since one week and so far, once you start trying to understand what's going on (something I never allowed it since 20 years I've tried), it's really not that bad.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #10
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I really want Gimp to succeed. It's a software I've been trying to use since more than 20 years now but the UX is so clunky.... and different than Photoshop. Muscle Memory is a thing. I'm moving my main machine from macOS to Linux (which I also used partially since 20years), moving from a mac mini M1 to a lovely Lenovo M75Q-1 and so far the experience has been great. I'm a (enthusiast) photographer and I have big hop…

It isn't alternative to photoshop though, what about darktable ( https://www.darktable.org/ )? I could be wrong but it is more of an alternative to lightroom afaik. Have you used?

There is also rawtherapee.

Re: Writing a Gimp 3.0 Plugin

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post #12

As is tradition, all threads about an open source project must be kicked off with non-contributers putting shit on it unconstructively.

As is tradition, all threads about open source talk about how great alternatives to commercial tools they happen to be, and how we should all shame ourselves only by thinking in using commercial software, without any consideration why we use them in first place.
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