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US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by motoxpro »

nobunaga wrote: post #73
PaulRobinson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…

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They are not supporting the decision in this comment, they are just pointing out that Elon had a positive experience with the twitter layoffs which led him to want to run that playbook again. I would even venture the guess that they DONT support Elon's decision here.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by watwut »

michaelscott wrote: post #48
TZubiri wrote: post #19

What's the biggest difference between a startup and a country? Aside from the obvious distinction, Musk has no experience running existing corporations with lots on the line to lose, he comes from move fast break things, great for a social media app, who gives a shit, great for literal moonshots, go big or go home. However when you manage something big, any upside from improving is weighed against its risk of degrada…

The American right has (always?) been anti-government overreach traditionally. I don't actually think Trump or Musk are particularly conservative or right wing (they'll say and do what gets them the support) but on this topic they are actually very much in line with political tradition. I think they're overshooting here and will need to correct, but I get the impression as an outsider that the American people who vot…

American right was always pro government overreach when it comes to cops, military and so on. The are anti government when the government is helping someone they dont like. They are against public schools, public health care, consumer protection, safety rules.

Trump or Musk are very much American right as it always was, except without pretension of respectability.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by [deleted] »

pjmlp wrote: post #71
vasco wrote: post #17

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That isn't much of a point because federal employees are much more likely to return than Twitter technical staff. Interesting approach, specially because it's not my country.

The problem with ongoing US "experiments" is how much the rest of the planet is dependent on American companies, related economics and politics, regardless of it not being our country, the schockwaves will be felt.

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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by ThinkBeat »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #7
sour-taste wrote: post #2

This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…

Getting bureaucrats to fire each other is met with every delay tactic possible. Might be able to put it off for two years which is all they need.

Going in crazy like they are doing now, may serve the administration if they start having department do their own layoffs in a hurry, because they know otherwise it will be done for then.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by somenameforme »

nobunaga wrote: post #73
PaulRobinson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…

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A difference with government is that you and I pay the salaries of these people. With Twitter a lot of it was just schadenfreude. Many of the employees were acting in a way perceived to be partisan and vindictive, which left a rather sizable number of people somewhat less than upset when the tide turned.

It's one reason we should all endeavor to treat each other, perhaps especially those we disagree with, with some degree of respect - even if your sole and only motivation is your own interests.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by blooalien »

clort wrote: post #35
_Microft wrote: post #4

The headline shown here is: “US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago”

Also, I don't really understand how they delivered letters letting people know that they had been fired but were struggling to rescind the letters because "we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel" Did they just hand them a note saying "your fired" and escort them out of the building?

> Did they just hand them a note saying "your fired" and escort them out of the building?

My understanding (from reading this and other articles on the topic) is that they blasted out mass emails to those who were fired and promptly disabled all their access and accounts (thereby preventing many of them from even getting the notice that they were fired).

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by watwut »

motoxpro wrote: post #81
nobunaga wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They are not supporting the decision in this comment, they are just pointing out that Elon had a positive experience with the twitter layoffs which led him to want to run that playbook again. I would even venture the guess that they DONT support Elon's decision here.

It takes pretty advance level of self deception to frame "loosing money" as "positive experience".

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ben_w wrote: post #24
adtac wrote: post #11

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People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

> He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so. Twitter lost 84% of its revenue. Do you want the USA GDP to shrink that much over the next few years?

> Twitter lost 84% of its revenue.

How much of that is because of politics? Already at the point of takeover, Musk was so hated by half the US for various reasons that it became profitable for major publishing platforms to abandon Twitter/X "on principle". When you're in that situation, nothing on the object-level can help you - neither good management nor technical competence. Revenue depends indirectly on the public opinion, and half of it wants nothing to do with you.

US nuclear arsenal is not in this situation.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by mlindner »

XorNot wrote: post #58
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #42

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The Fidelity valuation is old news. All the most recent debt sales were either just below or just above 100% of the original price. Example article: https://www.afr.com/technology/banks-offload-8-8b-in-debt-li...

Ah yes, sold Feb 15 2025[1]...right as the CEO took over running the US government and raided the US treasury department. I'm sure this is a completely above board sale that definitely does not represent a legal-if-you-don't-look-at-it way to bribe the de facto head of the US government / the expectation of massive corruption (ala: Tesla's stock price rising on the news Elon Musk was running DOGE - weird right? The C…

If you invent reasons to dismiss what people say then there's nothing anyone can say to convince you otherwise.
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