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US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by mckn1ght »

franczesko wrote: post #20
NewJazz wrote: post #9

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a…

Cringe. How on earth this guy was elected again?

I saw this comment earlier in another posted article that I think will explain it pretty well. We simply have a lot of these kinds of folks running around. Don’t forget to check out the YouTube comments for more examples! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43065052

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by andy_ppp »

TZubiri wrote: post #23
adtac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

Move fast, break things. Didn't facebook end up changing that? There's some things you can't undo once they break.

Once at a certain size didn’t Facebook say move fast but don’t break the infrastructure. Maybe they learned something about being at a certain scale.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by almog »

adtac wrote: post #11
sour-taste wrote: post #2

This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

If we take Twitter/X as an example of this process, my personal experience has been that it has been degraded to a spams and bot hell shortly after Musk took over. But my personal experience isn't quantifiable, what is quantifiable is X valuation which, according to Fidelity, has been depreciating and back in Oct. 2024 was estimated at nearly 20% of the original acquisition price.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

TZubiri wrote: post #23
adtac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

Move fast, break things. Didn't facebook end up changing that? There's some things you can't undo once they break.

surely a nuclear arsenal isn't one of those things.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by clort »

_Microft wrote: post #4

The headline shown here is: “US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago”

Also, I don't really understand how they delivered letters letting people know that they had been fired but were struggling to rescind the letters because "we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel"

Did they just hand them a note saying "your fired" and escort them out of the building?

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by sureglymop »

TZubiri wrote: post #23
adtac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

Move fast, break things. Didn't facebook end up changing that? There's some things you can't undo once they break.

And also, what if a nation state is different than a tech startup and shouldn't be run quite the same?

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

adtac wrote: post #11
sour-taste wrote: post #2

This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

I think there is a tiny difference if Twitter is not working or if the nuclear arsenal is malfunctioning.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by Hamuko »

clort wrote: post #35
_Microft wrote: post #4

The headline shown here is: “US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago”

Also, I don't really understand how they delivered letters letting people know that they had been fired but were struggling to rescind the letters because "we do not have a good way to get in touch with those personnel" Did they just hand them a note saying "your fired" and escort them out of the building?

Well, obviously you can't have them hanging around in an office that manages the nuclear stockpile. It's a far too critical of a role to have a bunch of fired people around it.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

ben_w wrote: post #24
adtac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

> He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so. Twitter lost 84% of its revenue. Do you want the USA GDP to shrink that much over the next few years?

The US's GDP isn't based on the amount of bloat in its government. Sure spending finds its way into the economy, but tax dollars saved also will. As for Twitter/X - the goal isn't revenue but profit, and Twitter was not in a good shape before Elon. Musk recently noted they are barely breaking even now, and the recent sale of X debt was just above original pricing. Considering big advertisers are coming back to X, that's probably only going to look better.

Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago

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Post by risyachka »

adtac wrote: post #11
sour-taste wrote: post #2

This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees

People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

Yeah this works for processes.

Doesn’t work in with people though. You will be deemed as unreliable.

Alliances will form without you as no one needs a partner that can leave you standing at any moment.

Running the company is the very opposite of running a country.

The feedback loop is weeks vs years/decades.

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