related discussion from yesterday >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43061481
US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
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Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#22Nuclear workers go where the work is…they are not going to wait around when there’s plenty of jobs out there needing their skills.
Can you explain? I must have the wrong impression, but isn't nuclear-related work specifically in the USA a declining or dying industry? Are there really plenty of jobs when Americans keep posturing away from nuclear? I knew no one from university interested in doing nuclear-related engineering for industry.
That's why there is work, no supply of fresh grads.
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#23This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees
People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.
Move fast, break things.
Didn't facebook end up changing that?
There's some things you can't undo once they break.
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#24This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees
People should read Elon Musk by Walter Issacson. Here's an excerpt from the chapter on his "algorithm": > [Step 2] Delete any part or process you can. You may have to add them back later. In fact, if you do not end up adding back at least 10% of them, then you didn't delete enough. He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.
> He thinks this is a feature, not a bug. Is he wrong? I don't think so.
Twitter lost 84% of its revenue.
Do you want the USA GDP to shrink that much over the next few years?
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#25Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a…
Cringe. How on earth this guy was elected again?
I don't know I got distracted. He did the weave!
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#26Nuclear workers go where the work is…they are not going to wait around when there’s plenty of jobs out there needing their skills.
Can you explain? I must have the wrong impression, but isn't nuclear-related work specifically in the USA a declining or dying industry? Are there really plenty of jobs when Americans keep posturing away from nuclear? I knew no one from university interested in doing nuclear-related engineering for industry.
There's a lot more to such skills than bombs and power plants:
https://natural-resources.canada.ca/climate-change/medical-i...
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…
It only "worked" because the key personnel decided to come back. Had they decided to move on to greener pastures, the end result would've been very different.
> Had they decided to move on
Why didn't they?
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…
I'm still waiting for file upload API v2. V1 was only made EOL like what, 9 months ago.. Its totally fine to gut your company when all you need is maintenance mode.
America won’t even have maintenance mode when these guys are done. Except for the billionaires.
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It only "worked" because the key personnel decided to come back. Had they decided to move on to greener pastures, the end result would've been very different.
That isn't much of a point because federal employees are much more likely to return than Twitter technical staff. Interesting approach, specially because it's not my country.
>> federal employees are much more likely to return
Not necessarily. It's generally understood that federal employees accept a lower salary in exchange for career stability. If a career as a federal employee now has higher risk then at least some people will be expecting a higher salary.
Re: US government struggles to rehire nuclear safety staff it laid off days ago
#30This is LITERALLY the twitter layoffs playing out again. They fired people who had credentials and other things they needed so had to hire them back. Everything else aside why repeat the same mistakes? Just go a little slower and give agencies time to compile accurate lists of necessary employees
Problem is, it’s not backfired - the example you cited “worked”, because it rapidly identified key personnel without weeks or months of subjective analysis and political posturing by workers and their supervisors. I think in federal government the risks are much higher, and Musk is being an idiot by exposing the America public to those risks, but the feedback loop for him on these previous experiments has been positi…
This is horribly naive. It’s not twitter. There are safety outcomes which need to be considered in safety critical agencies.
I mean can you even claim to make the assumption that the actual key staff were rehired? Can you make the assumption that they are working safely with the resources they need? Can you make an assumption that they have covered the entire scope of the organisation?
Probably not.
Chess is played one piece at a time, not smashing all the pieces off the board.