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Re: Mvl

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Post by rubynerd »

wickedchicken wrote: post #17
rubynerd wrote: post #14

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>> This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. Any criticism is good right about now It's very much a competitor to GMail, in that it's essentially GMail with some filtering and IMAP magic on top To start with, my problem that I am attempting to solve is notifications for things I'm not interested in in the middle of the day, which I have attempted to solve with notifications + funnel…

> I spent 3 months on the backend making sure it receives email perfectly, and securely, and I could not find a mail server written in Ruby which I could modify and add features like Funnel to The Sup mail client[1] went through a phase trying to handle IMAP directly, but the consensus was that it was simply too awful. It did yield some colorful code[2], but the fallout was that most people relied on offlineimap[3] t…

Thank you for the links, I'll look into Sup

SMTP was a piece of cake (apart from a weird SSL bug, which took up the majority of my time), but IMAP does look significantly trickier from the RFC

I would love to be in a place where IMAP isn't needed, and I plan to use my own API's for the client applications

Thank you for the code, in any case, it looks like a good laugh to read :D

Re: Mvl

#22

Post by rubynerd »

jaimzob wrote: post #15
rubynerd wrote: post #11

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Yea, 2/279 is much, much larger than what I thought This is quite a big issue, what OS/browser are you using?

Chrome 19.0.1084.56 on OSX 10.7.4...

OK, Thank you for the report, I will disable SSL in the future, because the amount of people seeing scaring errors is too high :/

EDIT: OK I won't disable SSL

Re: Mvl

#23

Post by micheljansen »

rubynerd wrote: post #22
jaimzob wrote: post #15

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Chrome 19.0.1084.56 on OSX 10.7.4...

OK, Thank you for the report, I will disable SSL in the future, because the amount of people seeing scaring errors is too high :/ EDIT: OK I won't disable SSL

No, the proper response to this is to fork out more money for a certificate that is more widely supported! It's email, it should be secure / trustworthy?

Re: Mvl

#24

Post by suresk »

rubynerd wrote: post #22
jaimzob wrote: post #15

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Chrome 19.0.1084.56 on OSX 10.7.4...

OK, Thank you for the report, I will disable SSL in the future, because the amount of people seeing scaring errors is too high :/ EDIT: OK I won't disable SSL

Disabling SSL is even worse - there is no way I'm going to trust someone with something as important as my email if they don't offer SSL or can't get it right.

Re: Mvl

#25

Post by suresk »

rubynerd wrote: post #14
slurgfest wrote: post #13

This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. A quick look at the front page (particularly the stuff focused at the very top) does not suggest anything so much as a competitor to Gmail. Scroll down and the feature list does little to change this impression. For $20/user/mo? All right, you don't have the resources to compete with Google... I understand... but how does that change my deci…

>> This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. Any criticism is good right about now It's very much a competitor to GMail, in that it's essentially GMail with some filtering and IMAP magic on top To start with, my problem that I am attempting to solve is notifications for things I'm not interested in in the middle of the day, which I have attempted to solve with notifications + funnel…

$20 per month, per user seems a little high when compared to Gmail which is either free (personal) or $5/month (business). The fact that Google is able to charge for email is partially due to the fact that they offered it for free for so long and got so many people to like the experience that it created a lot of demand in the workplace for it - I think you really need a way to let people experience your application for free if you want any shot at enticing people to pay $20/month for it.

There may be some subset of people willing to pay $20/month for ultra-configurable filtering, but I'm not really sure how big that market is, and I doubt it will help you break into larger organizations.

Re: Mvl

#26

Post by samstave »

I posted this [1] here a few days ago:

>Just off the top of my head you know what I would like to see as an email interface: Reddit. Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. Different users can reply in a threaded way to all the recipients of the message etc. Obviously it would need in-line attachements and in-line pictures. It would be interesting to allow a vote system on messages. Rather than file them, you down or up vote them. But in your box, you have more than one vote so you can apply more or less weight to info. Along with tags and groups and many other things that I can think of... That would be cool.

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I think you're on to something if you can incorporate the reddit model moreso in your app...

Though I think you need a designer pretty badly, and the costing model is too high.

But Email needs disruption.

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[1]: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4292608

Re: Mvl

#27

Post by samstave »

smashing wrote: post #8
rubynerd wrote: post #5

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I promise I will hire a designer as hire #1, I'm aware my design is atrocious :D

I actually like the red and black. It is powerful and direct, but probably won't appeal to all sensibilities. Good luck.

NO MAIL FOR YOU!

Re: Mvl

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Post by house9 »

rubynerd wrote: post #22
jaimzob wrote: post #15

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Chrome 19.0.1084.56 on OSX 10.7.4...

OK, Thank you for the report, I will disable SSL in the future, because the amount of people seeing scaring errors is too high :/ EDIT: OK I won't disable SSL

This might be an issue with - "purchased certificate must be combined with a root CA certificate for it to be trusted by browsers", see https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/ssl-certificate i think it is an nginx thing? And definitly do NOT disable ssl

Re: Mvl

#29

Post by rubynerd »

samstave wrote: post #26

I posted this [1] here a few days ago: > Just off the top of my head you know what I would like to see as an email interface: Reddit. Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. Different users can reply in a threaded way to all the recipients of the message etc. Obviously it would need in-line attachements and in-line pictures. It would be interesting to allow a vote syste…

>> the costing model is too high

I know, there is a feature that I thought was worth quite a bit, and I didn't include it but based the pricing model off of

I'll attempt to fix this soon, it's currently late here and I'm very tired :(

Re: Mvl

#30

Post by rubynerd »

suresk wrote: post #25
rubynerd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. Any criticism is good right about now It's very much a competitor to GMail, in that it's essentially GMail with some filtering and IMAP magic on top To start with, my problem that I am attempting to solve is notifications for things I'm not interested in in the middle of the day, which I have attempted to solve with notifications + funnel…

$20 per month, per user seems a little high when compared to Gmail which is either free (personal) or $5/month (business). The fact that Google is able to charge for email is partially due to the fact that they offered it for free for so long and got so many people to like the experience that it created a lot of demand in the workplace for it - I think you really need a way to let people experience your application f…

OK, Thank you for the feedback, I'll rework the pricing structure soon
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