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Re: Mvl

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Oh dear :/ apparently you're one of the 0.7% which the provider doesn't cover. I'm sorry, would you like me to disable it?

I hit this too - what does "doesn't cover" mean above? If two people have already hit this you might be having problems with more than 0.7%...

Yea, 2/279 is much, much larger than what I thought

This is quite a big issue, what OS/browser are you using?

Re: Mvl

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I actually like the red and black. It is powerful and direct, but probably won't appeal to all sensibilities. Good luck.

It's not just the color scheme, in my opinion. I'm not a fan of the font, a lot of the icons don't carry semantic meaning (for me, YMMV), etc.

The font is Segoe UI, I did that screenshot before I bought Proxima Nova, so the font will become Proxima Nova (I may Instapaper this and give you a bazillion settings for it)

As for the icons, they are a very tricky subject, I intended to create symbols for major features such as Funnel and Triage and have common icons for everything else, but it seems I've failed there

Which icons don't you like?

Re: Mvl

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This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh.

A quick look at the front page (particularly the stuff focused at the very top) does not suggest anything so much as a competitor to Gmail. Scroll down and the feature list does little to change this impression. For $20/user/mo? All right, you don't have the resources to compete with Google... I understand... but how does that change my decision as a potential customer?

Maybe it would help to emphasize a little more on what the distinctive advantage is here. Is the point just to get out from under Google et al. with a similar product? If so, maybe find some way to invoke the problem you see with Google et al. I don't know what you MEAN by "innovation from the inside out" or why it matters to me enough to pay $20/user/mo (for the preview; it looks like you plan to increase the price later...)

Phrases like "shit work" and "dick around" and "sticky fingers" on the questions page might be phrased more professionally, and several pages could use punctuation work (you seem to omit periods a lot)...

I am a little concerned about a "custom mail engine I'm writing from scratch". Are there not any established tools to build on in the Ruby world? Why do I want an email service which does not support IMAP or Android? Is this primarily geared at Apple devices or what (if so, that could be signaled more clearly...)

Good luck

Re: Mvl

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This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. A quick look at the front page (particularly the stuff focused at the very top) does not suggest anything so much as a competitor to Gmail. Scroll down and the feature list does little to change this impression. For $20/user/mo? All right, you don't have the resources to compete with Google... I understand... but how does that change my deci…

>> This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh.

Any criticism is good right about now

It's very much a competitor to GMail, in that it's essentially GMail with some filtering and IMAP magic on top

To start with, my problem that I am attempting to solve is notifications for things I'm not interested in in the middle of the day, which I have attempted to solve with notifications + funnel

The distinctive advantage is the ability to modify when email is sent to you, plus the ability to filter different types of email (transactional, newsletter, human beings)

You're right on the unprofessional copy, I'm sorry, and the punctuation mistakes are simply a flaw in my English (It is my first language, there is no excuse)

I spent 3 months on the backend making sure it receives email perfectly, and securely, and I could not find a mail server written in Ruby which I could modify and add features like Funnel to

It supports IMAP, IMAP is the primary method which devices will retrieve email with (ActiveSync is patented by Microsoft, who would like licensing fees)

It will also support Android, as in, the native mail app on Android, I am just prioritising iOS first because it avoids competition with native GMail, which as one person, is nigh on impossible

Yes, it's primarily geared towards iOS devices for now, because I don't think I can compete with the GMail + Android paring yet

Thank you very much for the criticism, I'll do some changes now

EDIT: changes are live, viva la full stop.

Re: Mvl

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I hit this too - what does "doesn't cover" mean above? If two people have already hit this you might be having problems with more than 0.7%...

Yea, 2/279 is much, much larger than what I thought This is quite a big issue, what OS/browser are you using?

Chrome 19.0.1084.56 on OSX 10.7.4...

Re: Mvl

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I hit this too - what does "doesn't cover" mean above? If two people have already hit this you might be having problems with more than 0.7%...

Yea, 2/279 is much, much larger than what I thought This is quite a big issue, what OS/browser are you using?

I was using chrome on iOS 5 (iPad)

Re: Mvl

#17

This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. A quick look at the front page (particularly the stuff focused at the very top) does not suggest anything so much as a competitor to Gmail. Scroll down and the feature list does little to change this impression. For $20/user/mo? All right, you don't have the resources to compete with Google... I understand... but how does that change my deci…

>> This is intended to be constructive criticism, though you may find it harsh. Any criticism is good right about now It's very much a competitor to GMail, in that it's essentially GMail with some filtering and IMAP magic on top To start with, my problem that I am attempting to solve is notifications for things I'm not interested in in the middle of the day, which I have attempted to solve with notifications + funnel…

> I spent 3 months on the backend making sure it receives email perfectly, and securely, and I could not find a mail server written in Ruby which I could modify and add features like Funnel to

The Sup mail client[1] went through a phase trying to handle IMAP directly, but the consensus was that it was simply too awful. It did yield some colorful code[2], but the fallout was that most people relied on offlineimap[3] to get their mail successfully.

[1] http://sup.rubyforge.org/

[2] http://sup.rubyforge.org/svn/trunk/lib/sup/imap.rb

[3] http://offlineimap.org/

Re: Mvl

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Yea, 2/279 is much, much larger than what I thought This is quite a big issue, what OS/browser are you using?

I was using chrome on iOS 5 (iPad)

I'm sorry, it looks "RapidSSL CA" is not supported on Chrome for iOS or Android

Thank you for reporting it though

Re: Mvl

#19
I would also suggest you have instrumentation set up for your app so that you can see how users are using it. I've used mixpanel.com before, it's free to start with. That way you can capture key user interactions that you're interested in (eg, are people using the "foo" button?). You can also use it to catch exceptions, especially where you think there might be issues like with your ssl cert.

Good luck, I admire your initiative to "ship" your project and it looks like you are getting good feedback on HN thus far.

Re: Mvl

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I would also suggest you have instrumentation set up for your app so that you can see how users are using it. I've used mixpanel.com before, it's free to start with. That way you can capture key user interactions that you're interested in (eg, are people using the "foo" button?). You can also use it to catch exceptions, especially where you think there might be issues like with your ssl cert. Good luck, I admire your…

The SSL errors are not errors I can catch, well, not without piecing nginx apart, and my C is a little rusty :/

I've had great fun looking at AirTraffic from gaug.es, although thank you for the recommendation for Mixpanel, I'll look into it

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