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The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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I don't understand what the article is about. Is she trolling for page views? I don't understand why she considers herself "violated" by Apple. Don't people make backups anymore?

Very very trolly. Almost as trolly as the people on HN who are taking it seriously.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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post #34

In a word Amber, yes, of course you are right to feel violated. Apple removed your data without your consent. The fact that you were able to recover it is impressive, and far beyond the ordinary user. The fact that you are in the minority because you used a tool and technology (RSS) that is passe if not unpopular, should be no excuse to ignore this kind of treatment. That feed collection was your data, and Apple had…

> the fact that Apple didn't even think to solve it is, in fact, disheartening Probably Jobs would have caught it, his attention to such details was painful, probably both for him and the ones at the other end of the table. Simplicity is an amazing difficult thing to get right. If you don't have the right man, well, just look at Gnome3's Unity or even at this incident: RSS removal could have easily been done in the n…

Would this be the Steve Jobs who ditched floppy disk drives when people still had piles of disks around, and Firewire ports when people still had plenty of devices requiring them, etc.?

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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My problem with Mountain Lion, and Lion, and I cant rember if it were true with snow leopard, was that I needed to re-install all of my unix dev tools

It's become a ritual for me that I have to rebuild imagemagick with each new upgraded version of OS X.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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From the LinkedIn profile of the guy who implemented Safari RSS: Social-Software Introvert Apple, Inc. February 2004 – January 2008 (4 years) Part of a very small team that implemented the news-reading (RSS/Atom) features of the Safari browser in Mac OS X 10.4, and the public news-reading framework for 10.5, used by Mail and 3rd party applications as well as Safari. I also prototyped some wild and crazy social-softwa…

Wait.. so the reason Apple removed RSS was they don't have the talent to implement RSS? Apple simply couldn't figure out to implement RSS in a way that they liked. I am sure they had lots of data about the usage of RSS in Safari and mail. Yeah they should have offered an export option, but I for one think RSS isn't going anywhere as a user facing technology.

As for not being a social software company, well; they want to build social features around existing applications and platforms. Things like iCloud sharing and even deeper integration of iMessage into existing applications are coming.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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post #49

Removing RSS functionality: A defensible decision, I think. Many excellent third-party RSS readers are available and this fits Apple’s overall theme of simplifying the OS: there are more system apps but each does less and only a very specific thing (Mail was split in Mail and Notes, iCal was split in Calendar and Reminders), iTunes being the big exception. RSS was never a good fit for Mail, why should Apple have to s…

I would expect a decent third-party solution to scan for folders like this, just as every third-party browser grabs (or at least offers to grab) Safari's data.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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post #14

If you don't like a product, don't use it. If you don't properly research a product, don't complain about its features. Do some research next time. Take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others. These are elementary principles.

I expect an OS to mostly stay out of my way and let me do stuff. If an upgrade is going to damage my stuff in some way it's the most minimal of courtesy to warn me and give me options.

Mountain Lion changed the internal functioning of mail so rss would have had to be architected. Yes, I think an export option would have been nice.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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post #14

If you don't like a product, don't use it. If you don't properly research a product, don't complain about its features. Do some research next time. Take responsibility for your actions instead of blaming others. These are elementary principles.

I expect an OS to mostly stay out of my way and let me do stuff. If an upgrade is going to damage my stuff in some way it's the most minimal of courtesy to warn me and give me options.

Mountain Lion changed the internal functioning of mail so rss would have had to be architected. Yes, I think an export option would have been nice.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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I guess I don't understand why people are cheering about RSS being replaced with tighter twitter/Facebook integration. Seems to be trading an open format that allows us all to publish for a proprietary one that is tied to specific sites with which Apple has a business arrangement.

I can understand why Apple wants to do this, but I'm surprised by the RSS hate from the tech community.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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post #8

We've found the only user in the world that used RSS in Mail! I feel a bond, as I was apparently the only user of RSS in Safari. (as confirmed by informal polling of friends and family). I moved my stuff into Google Reader and also went to Reeder on the Mac, but tried Newsify on the iOS devices and have to say that a custom newspaper is a much better experience than the hundred takes on master-detail drill down you f…

And I'm the last person who uses the NetNewsWire desktop client. It's kind of buggy, and a better user interface would be nice, but it works well enough most of the time.

No way. Tons of people use NNW. The original and still the best. :)
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