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Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by braiamp »

CM30 wrote: post #89

Tried it on 3 random videos I watched, and the results were... mostly good, albeit mixed. On the one hand, it got my video about a Mario & Luigi: Brothership glitch dead right, immediately listing where you'd need to die to get an item early and what you'd get out of it. It also did an okay job summarising a Zelda dungeon analysis video by someone I'm subscribed to, with some info on why that dungeon was well-designe…

> If it's a longer piece with multiple points backed by various examples, then it'll struggle to summarise it in a way that makes sense

I've found the same problem with humans too, so it's not like an improvement over humans.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by jowea »

henry2023 wrote: post #24

What if we summarize all the information in the world into a few hundred volumes of human knowledge, then summarize those into a 10,000 pages book, then that into a 10 long form essays, then those into a 100,000 chars blog post, then that into a pamphlet and finally we summarize one more time into a single tweet.

https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Junior_Woodchucks_Guidebook

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by _Algernon_ »

jasode wrote: post #82
_Algernon_ wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Instead what should they do? Read a book, touch grass, etc. >They clearly enjoy watching and digesting information from YouTube- the biggest platform for this. I'd probably enjoy heroin but I still choose not do take it because I know it's not good for me. What's your point?

>Read a book, touch grass, etc. There's a ton of useful information that's only available in Youtube videos and not books such as DIY tutorials, repairs, etc. Unfortunately, many helpful videos also include useless fluff. E.g. a "good" 10 minute video on how to disassemble a Samsung dryer to replace the heating element also has 2 extra minutes of "click my link to Nord VPN" and "please smash that Like button and subs…

When you've saved "years of watching" by using sponsorblock and 2x speed, that's not how you use YT. Sponsorblock saves 25% at most.

To be clear, I am not saying that youtube has no use, but the commenter I originally responded to is clearly in excess of whatever that reasonable level is.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by _Algernon_ »

Tuna-Fish wrote: post #86
_Algernon_ wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Books at least go through a minimal amount of vetting before they are published, and there are meaningful differences between forms of media. As McLuhan wrote: "The medium is the message".

Lol, no they don't. If you have a pdf with enough words in it, you can go from that to a published paperback on Amazon in 15 minutes.

Those aren't books. They're printed blogs you pay for.

Every book can be published as a pdf. That doesn't mean that every pdf is a book.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by sebzim4500 »

soraminazuki wrote: post #38
satvikpendem wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use SponsorBlock (be sure to enable all categories of blocking such as filler content, not just sponsors), DeArrow (de-clickbaits thumbnails and titles) and a video speed changer extension to enable much of your stated functionality, though of course not all. I've saved likely years of watching due to this combination.

How did your viewing experience change after using DeArrow? I'm curious because DeArrow has a great reputation, yet my gut feeling tells me that I should avoid watching clickbait videos altogether.

Just looking at their own marketing material, in some cases it's just making the titles longer and more boring without actually making them more descriptive.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by ghaff »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #65
Brajeshwar wrote: post #61

The sweet spot of most YouTube videos was supposedly under 10 minutes. What happened? These days, the typical YouTube videos are almost 30 minutes long. I'm fine with documentaries and the like. Is there a way to bring back the idea that under 10-minute videos work the best?

It's just a natural evolution of more people watching on their TVs and Mobile. Long slop and short slop with nothing in between. Must adapt to the TV and phone brain rot zombies.

Non-fiction text isn't that different. You have 5 to 10 minute blog/article reads and 250 page books from publishers with not a lot in between. (Yes, you can and I have, self-published books of an intermediate length but publishers don't generally want anything under 250 pages or so.)

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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Post by eMPee584 »

rcfox wrote: post #63
satvikpendem wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use SponsorBlock (be sure to enable all categories of blocking such as filler content, not just sponsors), DeArrow (de-clickbaits thumbnails and titles) and a video speed changer extension to enable much of your stated functionality, though of course not all. I've saved likely years of watching due to this combination.

YouTube has a speed changer built in. I'm curious what your extension would add.

with youtube enhancer (there's also an open source one i wanted to check out but haven't yet) f.e. one can add a speed icon in interface on which the scroll wheel works, allowing dynamic speed adjuistment which, accompanied with [cursor left] to jump back a bit and [number keys] to jump to 0-90% position is amazing for extracting info. Also, muting videos, turning on captions and rushing through them without the mindfsck is a soul saver often times. Our current attention economy with its commercialization incentives hopefully is just a toxic glitch in history..
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