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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by anon7000 »

dakiol wrote: post #119

Am I the only one who prefers stability instead of a constant rush of features in their text editors/IDEs? If it’s AI related I like them even less. I know I can stick forever with Vim, but damn, I tried Zed and it felt good.

The problem is that practically every company which can spend money is asking developers to explore AI development tools. It’s becoming a bare-minimum feature for many, which is why Cursor has exploded in popularity.

The other stuff is awesome and important (debugger when!?), but AI is becoming table stakes for even participating in the current tech economy. It’s all execs are talking about. So it’s not surprising they’ve prioritized this work

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Post by Larrikin »

ewoodrich wrote: post #250
Larrikin wrote: post #168

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As an Android user and developer, it's always annoying reading reviews where Samsung gets 9.5 out of ten and they give a terrible review to the competition because they have a slightly better camera. They give you a terrible Touch Wiz UI/whatever crap interface they switched to, change all the fonts, move around menu items and buttons, slightly change all the stock apps to be worse, push their garbage store, etc. Sam…

I absolutely prefer modern OneUI on Samsung phones to the Pixel variant or stock AOSP. The Galaxy store is only used for updating Samsung native apps and isn't "pushed" at all in my experience. I don't use their native apps for the most part and them existing isn't a problem for me, Google apps are preinstalled and work as expected set once as the default.

>I absolutely prefer modern OneUI on Samsung phones to the Pixel variant or stock AOSP.

I'm deeply interested in knowing why, if the answer is anything besides you have always or mostly used Samsung and are used to it.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by sushisource »

as-cii wrote: post #89
fau wrote: post #78

It's hard to care about AI features when a year later I still can't even get acceptable font rendering: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992

Hey fau, Zed founder here. Apologies if that issue has taken a while to fix: next week is "quality week" at Zed and I am personally going to take a look at it again. Thanks for the feedback!

While you're here...

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/14203

Would be a massive win that's fairly narrow in scope. More generally, being able to send arbitrary LSP commands to the server and see the response, even if it's just a text dump, would be super useful.

Love the project! I would say the only thing stopping me from moving over full time is a Git porcelain, but I'm sure you guys know that. Keep up the great work!

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Post by walthamstow »

hnfong wrote: post #105
walthamstow wrote: post #95

Of all the AI aids, autocomplete is my least favourite, at least from my experience with Cursor anyway. It takes me longer to review the autocomplete (I ain't yoloing it in) than it would have done to type the damn thing out. Loving Cursor's cmd+k workflow though, very productive.

It really depends on what you're using the code for. AI generated code is great for quick and dirty stuff you're going to throw away. For example yesterday I wanted to read a small csv and dump the contents of the second column of each row into a separate text file. I took a quick glance at the AI generated python code and just ran it. Saved me maybe 10 minutes of typing the code myself. Small and trivial win for AI,…

How did you prompt the code generation? With natural language or by beginning to write the code yourself? If the former, that is exactly what I am praising.

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Post by kylecazar »

thejazzman wrote: post #261
lionkor wrote: post #232

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I would love to edit my comment to instead say "having the rug pulled from under my feet", which is the feeling I was expressing.

don't those mean the same thing? (not arguing) recently saw an old alfred hitchcock presents where the character does the cheesiest most absurd rug pull ... and the person was boom dead. i assumed that was the origin of the term

'rug pull' has come to be mean (thanks to crypto) a premeditated & malicious financial play in which someone offers something for money and then vanishes before fulfilling their part of the original bargain.

OP edited to the idiomatic 'rug pulled from under my feet' to specify that he doesn't mean the above.

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Post by inkyoto »

IshKebab wrote: post #258
pjmlp wrote: post #229

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For the last 35 years, X Windows, Citrix and RDP have done the job just fine, in what I am concerned. No, they aren't anything better than what I am used to. Also, as compromise, a cloud shell, browser based IDE setup, and dev containers, also does the job in what concerns cloud deployments, which should be driven from CI/CD and don't have shells on containers anyway.

No they haven't done the job just fine. Remote X has always been a pain to set up, and slow. NX was much better but not free. Remote VSCode is far better than any of those options. If you don't want to try it that's fine, but don't pretend you know better.

I do not remember anything particularly difficult to get X11 up and running remotely, other than the XAuth stuff which was annoying enough in hardened environments, although those have not been commonplace, and X11 tunnelling via ssh has automagically taken care of XAuth.

The ultimate deal breaker, however, is X11 not being proxied by corporate firewalls, even though the protocol is extensively documented and the source is available. But that is because RDP has won over, and demand for X11 has diminished.

But, yes, X11 prefers local networks with flat topologies, and the protocol is chatty (again, not as big of an issue anymore unless run over a mobile connection with a high latency, but the X11 protocol compression helps with that).

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Post by inspectorwidget »

gizmo wrote: post #208
computerthings wrote: post #135

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Colonizers demand you change. Things make life better for people need to just exist. You just need to see your neighbor enjoying it to want yourself some of that. If you need to make changes for that, you'll ask what changes those are, and make them, if the trade-offs are worth it. If you need to scold people for being backwards for not accepting your great gift, it's not a great gift. > AI tools are amazing. You jus…

Technological change is like a force of nature. It's not polite. It doesn't care about your or your neighbor's preferences. It doesn't present itself as a gift. It doesn't even matter whether AI is harmful or beneficial because AI is here to stay regardless. You may detest AI but it will still become ubiquitous and you will be forced to adapt to this new reality. The history of the world is in a sense a history of te…

This is insane. "Technological change" isn't a hurricane or a tornado, it's the product of a bunch of individual choices we all make. Your attempt to dissociate it from the people causing it is noted, but rejected.

People like YOU are pushing this crap on us, and people like Sam Altman, and every other Johnny-come-lately CEO who thinks that the only thing missing from my fucking spreadsheet is some lie generator that also conveniently siphons up all of my data. This is entirely a choice that they and you are making, and they and you could easily stop.

This level of patronizing is exactly why people hate AI, and technology in general. This, right here. Take your smarmy little attitude and shove it up your AI.

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Post by lukaslalinsky »

kstrauser wrote: post #180
yurishimo wrote: post #71

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And this is one reason I still don't understand the use of python in large teams! I suppose with very good tests, you might be able to catch something like this, but it seems impossible to me how a PR reviewer might catch a "bug" like this and not just assume that it's intentional.

OTOH I’ve written Python professionally for about 25 years and I truly don’t think I’ve ever seen a bug due to accidental mis-indentation like that.

Completely agree, this is a common argument ever since Python existed. I've also used it for almost 25 years and these kind of indentation errors just don't happen. I see it the same as forgetting closing brace. Python programming writing C code might forget it initially, but C programmer absolutely will not forget it, it's in their muscle memory. And the same applies for dealing with indentation.

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Post by jwiz »

MobiusHorizons wrote: post #195
rafaelmn wrote: post #101

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>Remote editing does not work on Windows (its not implemented at all), so if you are on windows, you cannot ssh into anything with the editor remote editing feature. This means you cannot use your PC as a thin client to the actual chunky big work machine like you can with vscode. Does this work on anything other than VSCode ? I have been trying to use JetBrains stuff for this but it has been bad for years with little…

It’s not exactly the same paradigm as remote editing, but neovim in tmux accessed over mosh is my preferred way of accomplishing the same task. I have also gotten a neovim gui to connect with a neovim instance over ssh, which worked pretty well until the ssh connection broke. But I prefer my editor in a terminal rather than terminals in my editor, so I switched back to my tmux based workflow.

If you are already using tmux, what is the value of using mosh? Sincere question.
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