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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by tolerance »

mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

I see that the truth may be that there are too many men on earth who are deprived of cognitive fortitude, starved to think and willing to off-load thought to another...

...Wife...Machine...or what have you.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by awfulneutral »

as-cii wrote: post #85
boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

Hey! Zed founder here. We totally agree with this and that's why Zed will switch the keybinding for accepting an edit prediction to `alt-tab` when the cursor is in the leading whitespace of a line. This way you can keep using `tab` for indenting in that situation. Also, when there's both an edit prediction and and LSP completion, Zed switches the keybinding to `alt-tab` to prevent the conflict with accepting an LSP c…

Ohhh, is that why I keep pressing tab and it doesn't accept the prediction lately? I thought it was a bug. It feels weird for tab to double-indent when it could be accepting a prediction - I wonder if alt-tab to do a manual indent rather than accept the current prediction might be preferable?

Edit - On the other hand, a related issue is that if the prediction itself starts with whitespace, in that case it would be good if tab just indents like normal; otherwise you can't indent without accepting the prediction.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by cameroncooper »

If the model is open source, I'm hoping for an option to be able to run this feature locally for free. They seem to have support for running other models locally (e.g. deepseek-r1 through Ollama), so I'm hoping they will keep that up with edit prediction.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by botanical76 »

gkbrk wrote: post #41
mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

Is someone forcing you at gunpoint to use AI autocomplete while you code? If you think it's not good, just don't use it.

Well, I notice there is a lot of pressure in organizations for individual developers to start making use of these tools. I was already using AI extensively before my company picked up on it, so it doesn't really affect me negatively, but I notice some of my coworkers starting to ask questions like "Do I have to use it?". The status quo seems to imply that you {refuse to accept change,aren't willing to grow,aren't interested in increasing efficiency in workflow} if you don't use AI tools / autocomplete.

So while it is unlikely anyone is _forcing_ you to use AI-enabled efficiency boosters, there may be a strong managerial pressure felt to do so, and it may even be offered as an action item in yearly reviews, and therefore strongly linked to compensation / incentives.

That is all to say, I understand if people in this group are frustrated with the AI hype train at the moment, even if they can appreciate that these tools do indeed improve efficiency in some places and in some people.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by capital_guy »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #53
mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

I think there may be a good point here, but it's buried in a wall of poorly-written text and inappropriate references to your relationship problems.

Finding a way to complain about your wife in a comment about an IDE is peak hacker news.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by barnabee »

cameroncooper wrote: post #164

If the model is open source, I'm hoping for an option to be able to run this feature locally for free. They seem to have support for running other models locally (e.g. deepseek-r1 through Ollama), so I'm hoping they will keep that up with edit prediction.

Yeah, it's a deal-breaker if I can't run the model locally and/or have to sign up for their account.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by Larrikin »

kristofferR wrote: post #151
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

It's like the recent Samsung phones, functionality fees are waived until 2026. No word about the price yet. [1] Samsung should be avoided like the plague anyway, I've never seen such a malicious and hostile company! On Dec 13 they silently announced that they were gonna break Samsung APIs on Dec 30 [2]. Yeah, they gave devs the "You gotta spend your holidays fixing our mess, otherwise your app will break". Due to tha…

As an Android user and developer, it's always annoying reading reviews where Samsung gets 9.5 out of ten and they give a terrible review to the competition because they have a slightly better camera. They give you a terrible Touch Wiz UI/whatever crap interface they switched to, change all the fonts, move around menu items and buttons, slightly change all the stock apps to be worse, push their garbage store, etc. Samsung Galaxy 1 was legitimately a good phone, but all the modern reviews just feel like author grew up with all the garbage that Samsung brings and thinks that is actually a good experience

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by Falimonda »

mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

Go hug your wife

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by fredoliveira »

dgacmu wrote: post #125

As a slight tangent, this prompted me to wonder about one of the things I _haven't_ enjoyed in my last two weeks of experimenting with zed: It tries to autocomplete comments for me. Hands off - that's where I think! Fortunately, zed somewhat recently added options to disable these: "edit_predictions_disabled_in": ["comment"], "inline_completions_disabled_in": ["comment"] My life with zed just got a little better. If…

FYI, it looks like inline_completions_disabled_in is no longer a thing :-)
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