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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by kristofferR »

lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

It's like the recent Samsung phones, functionality fees are waived until 2026. No word about the price yet. [1]

Samsung should be avoided like the plague anyway, I've never seen such a malicious and hostile company! On Dec 13 they silently announced that they were gonna break Samsung APIs on Dec 30 [2]. Yeah, they gave devs the "You gotta spend your holidays fixing our mess, otherwise your app will break". Due to that Samsung is still broken in Home Assistant and other API integrations. [3]

[1] https://youtu.be/a4NJNdHqs_I?t=418

[2] https://community.smartthings.com/t/changes-to-personal-acce...

[3] https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/133623

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by relistan »

boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

Yeah, IMO tab makes no sense for this as the default.

Since I code in Go and use tabs regularly, I remapped my auto-complete AI key for Supermaven in Neovim to ctrl-L which I have no other occasion to use regularly. Now tab works properly and I can get auto-complete.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by pjmlp »

rafaelmn wrote: post #101
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

>Remote editing does not work on Windows (its not implemented at all), so if you are on windows, you cannot ssh into anything with the editor remote editing feature. This means you cannot use your PC as a thin client to the actual chunky big work machine like you can with vscode. Does this work on anything other than VSCode ? I have been trying to use JetBrains stuff for this but it has been bad for years with little…

As someone that is old enough to have used UNIX development servers for the whole company, with PC thin clients, reading about remote development as modern workflow is kind of hilarious.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by gizmo »

brabel wrote: post #61
gizmo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you fight the system you're not going to have a good time. For incremental improvements (faster grep, mixed-language syntax highlighting) you get the benefits for free. You don't have to change anything about the way you work. Revolutionary/disruptive technologies are not like that. They demand that the world adapts to them. They demand you change. Almost anywhere you can go by foot you can get faster with a horse…

> And adapt we did. We paved the world and are better for it. I don't know, it must've been awesome going everywhere mounted on a powerful live animal, not being limited to roads, feeling the fresh air, not destroying the planet.

New York at one point had 150,000 horses, each producing 15 to 30 pounds of manure daily. On top of that they produced 40,000 gallons of horse urine. Imagine the stench.

https://danszczesny.substack.com/p/the-great-horse-manure-cr...

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by frizkie »

rootnod3 wrote: post #110
ubercore wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can definitely run more than one LSP with zed -- can you elaborate on the angular case that gives you trouble?

I think the point is: "per file". Sure you an run a Rust LSP in one file and a JS LSP in another, but you can't drive both in the same file.

I run multiple LSPs on Ruby files with no issues. ruby-lsp and StandardRB are both Ruby specific.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by deagle50 »

hu3 wrote: post #97
coder543 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't seem like the issue has been entirely ignored: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992#issuecomme... Out of the 55,000 people who have starred the repo (and countless others who have downloaded Zed without starring the repo), only 184 people have upvoted that issue. In any project, issues have to be triaged. If someone contributed a fix, the Zed team would likely be interested in merging that...…

If font rendering on a text editor is not a priority I wonder what is. It seems to be AI.

And hiding the mouse cursor so you can actually see what you're editing.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by gizmo »

mihaaly wrote: post #57
gizmo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you fight the system you're not going to have a good time. For incremental improvements (faster grep, mixed-language syntax highlighting) you get the benefits for free. You don't have to change anything about the way you work. Revolutionary/disruptive technologies are not like that. They demand that the world adapts to them. They demand you change. Almost anywhere you can go by foot you can get faster with a horse…

I am not having a good time, that's true. This is with systems you do not need and not working for you. You can lay down to it, but could also fight it, go around it, not just give up and do what a random self promoted something tries to dictate. True, it is not good now or just yet, and about the amazingness, well, I believe the jury is still out on that.... let's say there are moments when it is. Disruption can f o…

You, individually, can make whichever choices you think are best for you. But change is forced on societies. No country can afford to ignore AI. Countries must adapt or get ran over. This is not a moral justification. I don't believe all technological change is for the better. Countries have to brace for impact regardless.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by awfulneutral »

Arch485 wrote: post #141
dakiol wrote: post #119

Am I the only one who prefers stability instead of a constant rush of features in their text editors/IDEs? If it’s AI related I like them even less. I know I can stick forever with Vim, but damn, I tried Zed and it felt good.

Zed is amazing, and I definitely recommend it. That said, I will not be using their AI features, and if the editor turns into a slow, bloated monster because of them (like Visual Studio and anything made by JetBrains) I will have to ditch it.

This just seems to be the way for code editors. We just have to switch every few years to the next one.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by flkiwi »

I'm not a developer, but I use Zed for a lot of things that would be ripe for "AI" application in the current bubble. I, however, have exactly zero use for AI in those cases, and will reconsider any application that pushes AI. It's both that I do not want to use AI features but also (a) I am prohibited from doing so and (b) the focus on deploying AI solutions raises serious concerns about a product's focus on and support of their core features. All of which is to say that Zed's AI features would be more valuable to me, and would drive quite a lot of good will, if they were an entirely removable module. No upsell notices, no suggested uses, just a complete absence of the functionality at the user's choice (like, say, an LSP).
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