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Re: ElevenReader

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Post by BoorishBears »

limo11 wrote: post #51
BoorishBears wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest challenge with TTS is high quality voice data. The architectures of closed providers still mostly trace their roots to stuff like Tortoise with a few exceptions. Which is why it's especially ridiculous ElevenLabs allows professionals to upload their voices, charges users of those voices a minimum of $50 per million characters, likely pays under $1 for the compute... and then passes on a whopping $2 back t…

Rev share is up to 20% on default rates (depending on notice period). With custom rates they can make their voice more expensive and earn up to $0.2 for every 1000 characters. So you can do the math.

The math is you're paying a pittance considering the insane margins involved and the fact you're using their voices in a flywheel that's actively obsoleting them.

Edit: And since you're concerned we might not be aware of Elevenlabs' generous terms... why is your documentation so cagey about them? https://elevenlabs.io/docs/product-guides/voices/payouts#thi...

I see users need to keep paying you a subscription fee in order to even get their payouts... but "up to 20%" isn't saying particularly much without the kind of details that should probably be on that page.

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Considering how much your company owes to an open source model, it's also impressive how little you've returned to the commons.

But no worries, the top comment under this post is an open source model that was finetuned for a couple of thousand dollars by a single dude soliciting the public for random voice samples.

If Google has no moat, you're out to sea.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by darkwater »

ramonverse wrote: post #52
darkwater wrote: post #49

I know I'm growing old but this is the kind of tech application that I don't like. Arts should be the last thing to be 100% fully done by a program. Enhancing capabilities in artists? Hell yeah. Replacing completely voice actors? No, thanks.

AI voice is literally the only way I have to "read" an obscure article during 1h non-static commutes.

I understand, It can do things that weren't previously possible, but it will also replace things that were done by humans, by artists before. Overall, in my opinion, is still a loss.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by janpmz »

benrutter wrote: post #44

I've been looking for a good and convenient way to read papers that are published in PDF for a while. Ideally, I'd be able to strip out the text content and send it to my kindle in readable form. Since apparently that's science fiction, this looks like a really good plan B! Will definitely give it a go.

You can try https://www.pdftomp3.com/ as well.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by nathanyukai »

darkwater wrote: post #62
ramonverse wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI voice is literally the only way I have to "read" an obscure article during 1h non-static commutes.

I understand, It can do things that weren't previously possible, but it will also replace things that were done by humans, by artists before. Overall, in my opinion, is still a loss.

"replace things that were done by humans" isn't a loss by itself, if it frees up human labour to do other things. If human replaced by AI can't find better things to do, such that it makes them poorer, or anti-social its a loss but not necessarily AI's fault.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by mkmk3 »

limo11 wrote: post #53
mkmk3 wrote: post #20

Damn, tried a unicornriot article [1] and it just skipped several paragraphs past the grisly stuff. Can anyone else confirm? [1] - https://unicornriot.ninja/2024/sextortion-coms-inside-a-vile...

Did you have some iconic voice selected? It skipped most likely due to inappropriate content. You can try with some non iconic voice

Wasn't using an iconic voice but it does seem to be voice specific, good call

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by _joel »

simongray wrote: post #58
csantini wrote: post #12

You can get pretty close with open source software: https://claudio.uk/posts/audiblez-v4.html

Oh no, it doesn't run on Apple Silicon. That's too bad.

> On my M2 MacBook Pro, on CPU, it takes about 1 hour, at a rate of about 60 characters per second.

Umm, it does.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by juliendorra »

You should try it with your own voice! (By first creating a custom voice on the web interface. The quick basic clone should be enough).

I found that it’s my preferred way to use their reader, as it makes the reading more neutral and transparent for my brain.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by csantini »

neom wrote: post #19
csantini wrote: post #12

You can get pretty close with open source software: https://claudio.uk/posts/audiblez-v4.html

How does it hold up on long stuff? I use Elevenlabs Studio daily and once things start to get into the chapters long, the voice can really start to go off the rails. It'd say they've solved a lot of this over the past 2/3 months, but it does still happen on long stuff.

It holds up well, because Audiblez uses sentence splitting (via Spacy models) before audio synthesis
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