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I am on the moderation team at Treehouse. Marcan has not violated any of our community guidelines and he categorically was not suspended from our Fediverse instance. He chose to delete his own account.
I can reproduce the bug: 1. go to https://social.treehouse.systems/explore 2. type @marcan in the search box 3. select "go to profile" from suggestions Feels like a problem with the dynamic/partial JS content loading. (Apologies for the confusion, there's no indication that made me suspect a bug... and I hadn't at that point seen anything about him deleting his own account yet.)
Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel
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If other, safer language would have existed the same time as C, I don’t think it would have stood the time as you say.
that's just hindsight. You can also argue the same for the dvorak keyboard vs qwerty. And yet, qwerty stood the test of time. Momentum and legacy is hard to displace, when the new fangled thing attemping to be an improvement is not proven, and has unknown unknowns.
Is it? Do you think it's hindsight to use the only "successful" story as "the only way forward?" Look at the gas vs electric vehicles. Yes, displacing legacy is hard but not insurmountable when there is a clear improvement. I don't think anyone can argue in good faith the Rust is NOT an improvement in C.
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Yeah m68k is still around too and it has more than a decade on alpha. People use and maintain them and they have very little impact outside arch/ nowadays so they're on the happy side of cost/benefit I guess.
M68k has the advantage that it has a fairly typical memory model. Alpha's memory model has problems with providing atomic access to single bytes, which i'd imagine in a kernel is a bit annoying :-) And then there's just the social aspect, m68k was used in the Amiga/Atari/Mac/QL/x68k, so there is a whole generation of us m68k fans who are willing to keep it alive. Alpha has it's fans (me included!), but it's not exact…
That required this smp_read_barrier_depends() through the kernel, but actually in recent years that has basically been subsumed by other concurrent access primitives that all the core kernel must use, so I think alpha is no longer much of a problem outside arch/alpha
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Which sounds inefficient and exactly the sort of problem that doesn't happen with a Github issue/PR.
But Github, being a platform, is a nonstarter. Have there been any recent popular developments on a similar workflow that is as robust as e-mail ?
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Which sounds inefficient and exactly the sort of problem that doesn't happen with a Github issue/PR.
> exactly the sort of problem that doesn't happen with a Github issue/PR What? PRs or issues being forgotten happens all the time, especially for large projects.
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Can you explain in simple terms why a person cannot reply abusively (whatever that means) if he so desires? You're not obliged to interact with him, it's a free choice to join or to quit the lkml.
https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/30/hard_to_find_linux_ma... One of the main issues Torvalds says the kernel has is not being able to find maintainers. People don’t want to be abused while volunteering could be part of that. Another possibility is that he gets paid over a million dollars a year by an employer, who will have some concerns over legal risks, reputation, etc.
As for his relationship with his employer — they both have the freedom to terminate it when their interests do not align anymore.
I genuinely struggle to understand where all the high expectations come from. Somehow people think that an open source project leader is obliged to be kind and polite and humble and understanding. None of these obligations exist as far as I can tell.
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> the fact that rust is highly compute intensive language care to elaborate on that?
rust utilizes various methods at compile time which significantly increases compute, such as compiler is optimised for memory safety, which causes it do a lot of tasks and changes at compile time unlike C and inturn during execution to ensure ms, which could easily be avoided, it is good for overflow situations but in terms of compute required in exchange for the program is simply(currently) not at the level that wou…
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But Github, being a platform, is a nonstarter. Have there been any recent popular developments on a similar workflow that is as robust as e-mail ?
They "just" need to settle on a platform. GitLab sounds good and is used by a lot of important Open Source projects.
I'm not sure how long GitLab can be trusted either, as well as git becoming a bit too synonymous with GitHub...
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> Threatening a social media campaign to out people is completely toxic behaviour. This is a long-term contributor who is perhaps a bit abrasive, not Jimmy fucking Saville. I'm no where near in the loop on this, but that sounds incredibly toxic. Are there some good links to summarize this? EDIT: OK, these are fully enough to allow me to understand the issue. Marcan: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/208e1fc3-cfc…
https://archive.is/rESxe This is a recurring pattern I see with drama in some open source communities, where people measure others using yardsticks they themselves don't live up to. People can't post stuff like this while accusing everyone in the vicinity except themselves of bad behavior. Choose one.
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> If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, because I'm out of ideas. That's just manipulative. Maybe it's just a moment of frustration and they'd take it back eventually, but blackmailing people with social drama is not cool. That's what X and Reddit is for. > Rust folks: Please don't waste your time and mental cycles on drama like this [...] they know they're going to be on the losing side o…
It’s true though? I don’t see anyone picking C/C++ over Rust/Go in my immediate environment. That might reflect my environment, but all of the things I’d consider C variations for I’d use Rust for as well…
Social bubbles can work like that.