Maybe the EU should be glad that the UK is not a member any more.
U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the British Intelligence agencies must be bored coming up with new ways to make Apple look good. We know they collude with US intelligence serviceUS
By collude, you mean responding to subpoenas they are legally obliged to respond to?
Of course that's a thing. However, anyone who's ever read a history book has a pretty good reason to be suspicious it ends there.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never understood this kinds of arguments... both sides want to read your private data, but it's bad if 'the other side' does it? It's your current MI5/government that wants access to apples data.
My interpretation is that it is an argument against trust in authority in privacy discussions. A: Privacy matters! B: Why should you care if you have nothing to hide? A: If you have nothing to hide, then give me the password to your Facebook. B: I don't trust you with that, but I trust my governments and relevant authorities. The point is that B's faith in authority is flawed as the "powers that be" are an eternally…
Exactly this. What I'm talking about is just a specific instance of the generalised rule you've stated.
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#294"Stupid is as stupid does...", this is the same Home Office Minister, Yvette Cooper (Flipper) that says pointy kitchen knives and Amazon orders are the reason for knife crime epidemic in the UK. Next up x.com banned from the UK.
What is the reason?
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#295I don't think the UK government would try to put Apple out of business if they don't comply it's more likely that they would just get heavily fined until they do so. The most likely outcome, I would guess, is that Apple just stop offering Advanced Data Protection as a service in the UK rather than create some kind of backdoor. It's a weak proposition from the government because anyone with something to hide will just…
You're assuming that turning off ADP in the U.K. is sufficient to appease the British Government. The Investigatory Powers Act can also be interpreted to give the U.K. the right to ask for encrypted data from users outside of the U.K. (see Apple making this exact point in a filing here [1].) Turning off ADP in the U.K. doesn't end the controversy if that's what's at stake.
[1] https://bsky.app/profile/matthewdgreen.bsky.social/post/3lhl...
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#296The UK government drops the ball on just about every matter the public care about, but when it comes to overreaching digital surveillance, they're absolutely obsessed.
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#298The writing is on the wall for the UK, has been for long, and the Labour government is going out of the way to ensure there can never be any reform, even if they have no mandate. There is one way they want to go, and they will drag their population along kicking and screaming. Anyone who can should get out.
What are you trying to say exactly? What kind of reform are you suggesting they make impossible? And how?
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"Far right" suggests extremism. Could you name an extremist policy that Reform have proposed?
Several specific ones: - Leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (joining the hallowed company of Russia and Belarus!) - leaving the World Health Organisation - get rid of net-zero climate targets, replacing them with fast-tracked approval for more North Sea oil & gas licenses and fracking - public enquiry on “Vaccine Harms”
1. Nice cherry-picking. The US and Canada (and, in fact, a majority of world nations) are not signatories of the ECHR. Those countries seem to get on just fine without it. In particular they are able to deport dangerous foreign criminals without issue - meaning their citizens are safer. There's nothing extreme about leaving the ECHR.
2. The WHO is notorious for failures in policy e.g. Covid response, bends to political pressure from China (e.g. not respecting Taiwan as an independent entity), and is dependent on private donors like Bill Gates which means they have undue influence. A 2021 probe into the WHO found its staff were involved in sexual abuse during an Ebola outbreak in Congo. There are plenty of reasons for leaving it. There's nothing extreme about leaving the WHO.
3. We absolutely should get the oil and gas we need from our own reserves, rather than buying it from despotic regimes and shipping it half way round the world at great ecological expense. There's nothing "extreme" about using our own natural resources.
4. We know now that there were many serious side effects from the mRNA injections and that the contracts granting lifetime immunity to the manufacturers for harm were extremely suspicious. This is a totally novel form of medical intervention, administered to a large population in a hurry, under intense political pressure. There's nothing "extreme" about an enquiry on mRNA injection harms. What are we afraid of? Uncovering the truth?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10022421/
"CV events such as thrombosis, thrombocytopenia, stroke, and myocarditis frequently occur with the mRNA vaccines studied. A significant number of studies included in our review reported BNT162b2 events, which presses the need to conduct more research into the CV implications of mRNA‐1273 (Moderna) vaccine."
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reform UK don't believe Covid was a hoax. Reform UK believe that the purported efficacy of the mRNA vaccines at preventing transmission was massively exaggerated (we now know it was). https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... Reform UK believe that the detrimental side effects of lockdown policy outweighed the benefits of lockdown policy (again, there's evidence to support this view) https://sit…
In this other comment I read a rather different story about what ReformUK wants https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42971836 Your comment makes it sound like they're all about research, but they also want to ditch human rights and the world health organisation? This conflict of logic makes me think there's probably more to it than just research and doing good in the world. Can it be that they speak of e.g. lockdowns…
Please see this response: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42973646