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I see now. You mean real business stuff. At that point I may as well do a startup.
So taking the wrong lessons from what I’m saying :). It’s even harder doing a startup straight out of college with no business skills, no network, and no real world experience.
GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
So taking the wrong lessons from what I’m saying :). It’s even harder doing a startup straight out of college with no business skills, no network, and no real world experience.
I guess I'm just confused now. I can't do technical since that's too commodified, but I can't do business since I'm a youngster with no real world experience.
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
#213They'd better get on the IntelliJ integration fast— if I'm going to switch editors in order to use an LLM coding assistant, I may as well just switch to Cursor, which has a strong head start on them on the assistant and also has a much better autocomplete. I'm honestly surprised to see no mention here of them moving to replicate Cursor's autocomplete—IMO that is where Cursor's real edge lies. Anyone can wrap a chatbo…
I wish cursor was an extension of VSCode and not a fork.
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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How? Seems obvious that I missed the boat on LLMs. I don't have any ideas anyway (I have only one "idea", and it's someone elses and I have no faith that it'll get me a foothold). Robotics will be solved pretty soon by 10x reasoners if this development curve continues. Everything I can "change to" has a 2 year delta and that is a 100x capability change within the AI space right now.
IMHO what you should be doing is building stuff to show off. More great ideas will flow out of that activity. As for missed the boat, how do you mean? We remain in early days! Finally, try to avoid making your own reality. You write as if you know the future, and none of us do! And even when we are right, how we respond to that future really matters! You could sulk in gloom , or! You could be building things and or s…
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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I want to learn, but I can't display that I learned them. You know the whole thing where real projects are more valuable than simply "I did a tutorial"? I struggle to find ways to apply LLMs practically beyond like one project (which is basically someone else's anyway). That's my struggle.
Do you not see the contradiction in what you're saying? "LLMs will replace us all... I can't find a use for LLMs". Get to replacing us already. It's a gold rush, someone needs to get rich selling shovels.
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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People are sleeping on codeium. I've found their AI assistant to be much better than cursor
Assuming windsurf.org is the correct website, I don't get a sense that it is legit or ready for prime time. The FAQ link goes nowhere (afaik there is no FAQ), the page language selector is buggy - it randomly shows me other languages and is stubborn to accept when I switch back to English. Also, my first attempt to reach the main page was a 502 error. Also, I don't see anywhere that tells me who makes this editor. I'…
The link you're looking for is https://codeium.com/windsurf
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
#217I use Copilot and it’s a game-changer for my productivity, but I really wish it was capable of natural language searching. So for example I could ask it “show me all places in the code where x is assigned a value but a flush() command is not immediately issued afterwards”.
I answer those kinds of questions by piping my entire codebase into a large context model (like Claude or o3-mini or Gemini) and prompting it directly. Here's a recent example: files-to-prompt datasette tests -e py -c | \ llm -m gemini-2.0-flash-exp -u \ 'which of these files contain tests that indirectly exercise the label_column_for_table() function' https://gist.github.com/simonw/bee455c41d463abc6282a5c9c132c...
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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Your logic works for seniors, but honestly I'm unsure how it works for anybody that just wants to break in.
Isn’t that what everyone said about outsourcing too? My view is LLMs will compete with outsourced developers (and contractors/consultants for one-off jobs), where job context and project scope is already subject to a communication gap. A big role of full time employees is not just to code, but to interact to various degrees with PMs/Sales/Customers/the rest of the company stakeholders to varying degrees. Ultimately s…
That’s true the further you get up in your career. But most of the time, it is:
- junior developers get tasks where both the business problem and technical solution is well defined and they need a lot of handholding and supervision
- mid level developers get tasks where the business problem is mostly well defined and they use their own judgement to create the technical solution. They should be able to lead work streams or epics
- Senior developers are responsible for leading major deliverables with multiple work streams, epics and are over seeing mid level developers and juniors. This is usually the first level where you spend the majority of your time dealing with strategy and “ambiguity” and with the “business”.
- staff - strategy involving many large implementations.
AI can already do a creditable job as a junior level developer and is rapidly moving up to being able to do the work of a mid level developer.
No matter what your title is, if you are just pulling tickets off the board with well defined business cases, you are doing mid level developer work. My definition is what I’ve seen, heard and read about from every major tech company.
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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Isn’t that what everyone said about outsourcing too? My view is LLMs will compete with outsourced developers (and contractors/consultants for one-off jobs), where job context and project scope is already subject to a communication gap. A big role of full time employees is not just to code, but to interact to various degrees with PMs/Sales/Customers/the rest of the company stakeholders to varying degrees. Ultimately s…
> A big role of full time employees is not just to code, but to interact to various degrees with PMs/Sales/Customers/the rest of the company stakeholders to varying degrees. That’s true the further you get up in your career. But most of the time, it is: - junior developers get tasks where both the business problem and technical solution is well defined and they need a lot of handholding and supervision - mid level de…
I don’t see how LLMs completely eliminate anyone who is doing anything more than simply pulling well-defined tickets off a board
Re: GitHub Copilot: The Agent Awakens
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Your logic works for seniors, but honestly I'm unsure how it works for anybody that just wants to break in.
I was a junior after companies had already decided to out source low-level development roles. And I also faced the roadblock of lacking a degree, or any college at the time, so internships were not an option. What I did was learn the skills that companies were hiring for and kept applying until I finally found some tiny company willing to pay me peanuts ($8.50hr, I'm not joking, I continued to work two jobs that enti…
I’m saying this ironically as a 50 year old (check my username) - “okay boomer”.
That doesn’t work anymore. Internships are much harder to get than they use to be.
“Learning in demand skills” doesn’t work either. Everyone is doing it. Every job opening literally gets thousands of applicants within the first day with people who also has the same generic skillset.
When I was looking for your standard C# CRUD enterprise job where they wanted AWS experience last year and the year before as a “Plan B”, I applied for literally hundreds of jobs and heard crickets. Not only had a coded and led major projects dealing with AWS and before dealing with AWS, I worked at AWS in the consulting department (full time).
Plan A offers came quickly (within two or three weeks) both times. Full time positions doing strategic consulting (personal outreach) and one or two offers from product companies based on my network. But that doesn’t help when someone is just starting out.
By the way, I also started out in 1996 by getting a return offer to be a computer operator based on an internship. But it ain’t 1996 anymore. It’s a shit show out here right now for people with experience.