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Flynn and Musk attacking Lutheran organizations? I thought this administration was going to pretend to be super Christian.

The Lutheran organizations were facilitating mass migration. The money was being given to them to help bring in millions of people from places like Haiti. https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1887267531267940517 They are providing receipts for all of the corruption they are uncovering. >SERVICES FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN. https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1885872007062892568 LUTHERAN IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE SERVICE INC: $367,…

If you are going to quote X, then at least find another source, one that is legit.

The truth is that LSS got grants to pay for the resettlement of legal immigrants. LSS was NOT "facilitating mass migration." LSS has a long tradition of this work and from what I know of their work in Washington, DC (the city, not the cap), it was exemplary.

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They are also tweeting 'findings' to create a narrative. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885964969335808217

I mean it’s raw data, putting “findings” in quotes does not change the fact that this is concrete evidence of corruption. These are taxpayer dollars: LUTHERAN IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE SERVICE INC: $367,612,906 LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES OF THE SOUTH, INC: $134,190,472.95 LUTHERAN SERVICES FLORIDA, INC.: $82,937,819.95

What exact corrupt activities has LSS engaged in?

Specifically, provide some evidence, please.

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You’re moving the goal posts of this conversation by redefining the word power. My point stands.

I didn't redefine it lol. you assumed I was using one definition and appear to be confused when I clarified. I've been very consistent.

Fair enough. I think the point is that’s not power. Not hard power or real power anyway.

It’s soft power, it’s influence. But not much more.

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Perhaps revisit your premise prior to asserting malicious intent.

The biggest problem with the USA is people look at the current state of the government and somehow don't see pre Nazi Germany. If the percentage of these sympathizers is large enough then there is no course correction that will be possible in two years.

Perhaps review “The Poverty of Historicism,” which if read carefully, is similar to being slapped with a fish.

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The Lutheran organizations were facilitating mass migration. The money was being given to them to help bring in millions of people from places like Haiti. https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1887267531267940517 They are providing receipts for all of the corruption they are uncovering. >SERVICES FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN. https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1885872007062892568 LUTHERAN IMMIGRATION AND REFUGEE SERVICE INC: $367,…

If you are going to quote X, then at least find another source, one that is legit. The truth is that LSS got grants to pay for the resettlement of legal immigrants. LSS was NOT "facilitating mass migration." LSS has a long tradition of this work and from what I know of their work in Washington, DC (the city, not the cap), it was exemplary.

“Legal migration” as in the CBP One app?

The US government ran ads in Haiti and other nations in French teaching people how to apply to come to America as asylum seekers.

The US government flew huge numbers of these people into the US and also paid organizations like LSS to “resettle” them.

This is mass migration and ALL of this was done using taxpayer money. Nobody voted for this, this is pure corruption.

It is so wonderful to see it all being dismantled and exposed.

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When did the left do this to the right? Be specific please.

You're asking when did this happen: "the left dismantling the shadow right"

here, when the IRS under Obama discriminated against conservative and Christian groups for applications for tax exempt status

> The consent order says the IRS admits it wrongly used "heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays" and demanded unnecessary information as it reviewed applications for tax-exempt status. The order says, "For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology."

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-...

Is that specific enough for you?

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I didn't redefine it lol. you assumed I was using one definition and appear to be confused when I clarified. I've been very consistent.

Fair enough. I think the point is that’s not power. Not hard power or real power anyway. It’s soft power, it’s influence. But not much more.

I think it is hard power. and also note they had write access, not just read. so if Musk wanted to he could have just straight up deleted all the data. that is real power.

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Has there been any proof to this claim outside of the White House press secretary?

This grant [1]. "SUPPORT SEXUAL AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH (SRH) CARE CLOSE TO THE DISPLACED POPULATIONS. [...] Place Of Performance //XGZ GAZA STRIP GAZA STRIP". Though I don't think that it will be used exclusively for condoms, the one paragraph description doesn't give much details about how exactly the 45 million dollars will be spent. [1] https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_SPRMCO24VC0339_19...

It also shows that zero dollars has been outlaid for the grant over the last 5 months. It's entirely possible that none of the money would have been used by the expiration of the grant.

That said, I wish these were required to be a lot more verbose. I can envision a program with that description I would totally approve of, and I can imagine programs with that description that I wouldn't think are useful. Being more transparent around the programs would help in cases where wild unsubstantiated claims are made.

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> hope it will be get reined in before oops. they already have access to data, and there's no unseeing what they've seen.

They are also tweeting 'findings' to create a narrative. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885964969335808217

Musk is repeating his playbook from acquiring Twitter: Get wide access to systems, cherry-pick information, and then blast out a completely wrong summary of it, knowing that supporters will amplify it, believe it, and never check the source material.

For example, asserting that two groups are exchanging money simply because they're both customers at the same bank.

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/03/the-twitter-files-playbo...

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Discord seems to be way better You can't be serious. The search alone makes it atrocious for anything other than game servers. It's a problem enough people are trying to use Discord where they should have used proper forums.

Yet projects like LLVM use it

Large projects and companies are making dumb decisions all the time.
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