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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

on the other hand, i'd be very weary of anyone eating Trump's chili recipe

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Online the idea of "no politics" is often used as a way to try to stifle / silence discussion too. It's disturbingly fitting to the Gemini example. I was a part of a nice small forum online. Most posts were everyday life posts / personal. The person who ran it seemed well meaning. Then a "no politics" rule appeared. It was fine for a while. I understood what they meant and even I only want so much outrage in my small…

AI is online but not human. If a hammer refuses to hammer certain things it is faulty and should be fixed or replaced.

A hammer that refuses to hammer my thumb when I intend for it to only hammer nails would be amazing.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Google is the least confusing to me. Old school version number and Pro is better than Flash which is fast and for "simple" stuff (which can be effortless intermediate level coding at this point). OpenAI is crazy. There may be a day when we might have o5 that is reasoning and 5o that is not, and where they belong to different generations too, snd where "o" meant "Omni" despite o1-o3 not being audiovisual anymore like…

4o is a more advanced model than o1 or o3, right!?

Wait is it?? o1 is more expensive I think

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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That would still be politics, yes. What would be the benefit of discussing it at work? The particular example you give is one which is especially divisive. If someone feels emotionally affected by an issue to the point where they cannot focus on work they should take a leave of absence.

It's called being an understanding human. Unless you limit the topics to the weather and definitely not in the changing climate style, you will talk about real life quite often. And someone's real life may be a school dropoff one day and a grenade landing on their brother digging trenches in Ukraine the day after. If you hard nope out of tougher subjects, they're unlikely to talk much to you afterwards.

If you're unable to focus at work because of some personal trauma, then the best thing to do at most companies is talk to your line manager about it to explain the situation. That's entirely reasonable and I would think that most people will respond empathetically in that situation.

I don't think that's typically what is meant when discussing 'leaving politics out of work' though.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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There's nothing wrong with (and in fact much to be said in favor of) a "no politics" rule. When I was growing up it was common advice to not discuss politics/religion in mixed company. At one point I thought that was stupid fuddy-duddy advice, because people are adults and can act reasonably even if they disagree. But as I get older, I realize that I was wrong: people really, really can't control their emotions when…

It's challenging because one person's "politics" is another person's "my extended family is being actively slaughtered in the middle east, how can I think or talk about anything else." Is the person wrong for that? The line for what is and isn't politics is incredibly blurry and is almost always drawn on the side of whoever already has the most privilege

Ok, but it does make for poor dinner party conversation.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

on the other hand, i'd be very weary of anyone eating Trump's chili recipe

McDonald's doesn't serve chili

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Thanks, registering right now.

This one is good, and it even accepts Bitcoins for top-ups. But o3-mini is not available without an api key, so still need an openai subscription ...

This is a policy enforced by OpenAI, not OpenRouter

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#260

I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

Note, had the same convo with ChatG and it blew right by the O word, and commented that it's nice to have an old recipe to work on over time.
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