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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

nudpiedo wrote: post #181
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have OpenAI Deep Research access in Europe and it is extremely good. It's also particularly good at niche market research in products and companies. Happy to give you a demo. If you want to send me a prompt, I can share a link to the resulting output.

I wish to know how to access it for myself, but how may I contact you? is it chatGPT Plus, Pro or something else? Where are you based UK or Germany? I was hoping for a market research on SysML tooling.

Just post your prompt here and I'll give you a link to the response. Deep research requires pretty detailed prompts in order to generate high-quality reports.

I'm usually in Croatia but am right now in Greece. My account ($200 Pro account) works the same wherever I am, even when I'm outside the EU, e.g. in Serbia.

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Post by rfoo »

belval wrote: post #26
raverbashing wrote: post #20

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Honestly naming conventions in the AI world have been appalling regardless of the company

Google isn't even the worst in my opinion. From the top of my head Anthropic: Claude 1 Claude Instant 1 Claude 2 Claude Haiku 3 Claude Sonnet 3 Claude Opus 3 Claude Haiku 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5v2 OpenAI: GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1 o3-mini o1-mini Fun times when you try to setup throughput provisioning.

It's

GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4-turbo GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1-preview o1 (low) o1 (medium) o1 (high) o1-mini o3-mini (low) o3-mini (medium) o3-mini (high)

At this pace we are going to get to USB 3.2 Gen 1 real fast.

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Post by MrScruff »

63 wrote: post #179
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #145

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There's nothing wrong with (and in fact much to be said in favor of) a "no politics" rule. When I was growing up it was common advice to not discuss politics/religion in mixed company. At one point I thought that was stupid fuddy-duddy advice, because people are adults and can act reasonably even if they disagree. But as I get older, I realize that I was wrong: people really, really can't control their emotions when…

It's challenging because one person's "politics" is another person's "my extended family is being actively slaughtered in the middle east, how can I think or talk about anything else." Is the person wrong for that? The line for what is and isn't politics is incredibly blurry and is almost always drawn on the side of whoever already has the most privilege

That would still be politics, yes. What would be the benefit of discussing it at work? The particular example you give is one which is especially divisive. If someone feels emotionally affected by an issue to the point where they cannot focus on work they should take a leave of absence.

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Post by MrScruff »

avar wrote: post #166
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #145

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There's nothing wrong with (and in fact much to be said in favor of) a "no politics" rule. When I was growing up it was common advice to not discuss politics/religion in mixed company. At one point I thought that was stupid fuddy-duddy advice, because people are adults and can act reasonably even if they disagree. But as I get older, I realize that I was wrong: people really, really can't control their emotions when…

As an outsider's perspective: This aspect of American culture seems self-reinforcing. It's not like things can't get heated when people in much of the rest of the world discuss politics. But if the subject isn't entirely verboten, adults will have some practice in agreeing to disagree, and moving on. With AI this particular cultural export has gone from a quaint oddity, to something that, as a practical matter, can b…

It’s not just the US, no-one talked about politics or religion at work in the UK twenty years ago either

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Post by nudpiedo »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #164
nudpiedo wrote: post #116

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if it would make whole market research on products and companies I would gladly pay for it... but a bit unsure from Europe where it seems to be everything restricted due political boundaries.

I have OpenAI Deep Research access in Europe and it is extremely good. It's also particularly good at niche market research in products and companies. Happy to give you a demo. If you want to send me a prompt, I can share a link to the resulting output.

Thanks for the offering, seriously, it is an important investment/cost I wasn't sure it would be worth right now. (If you wish to I added some contact information, for an easier chat, in my HN profile; just for the following day).

Here is a realistic case I would have used

Short prompt: "research the market of the SysML products and industry cap, key actors, opportunities and advantages"

Expanded prompt:

“Conduct a detailed market analysis of SysML (Systems Modeling Language) products and services, focusing on the following aspects: 1. Industry Overview: • Current market size and growth trends for SysML-related products and services. • Global market cap or valuation of the SysML industry or similar system engineering software. 2. Key Players: • Identify major companies and organizations offering SysML tools, including established leaders and emerging competitors. • Provide a brief description of each key player’s products, innovations, and market share. 3. Product Offerings: • Highlight the range of SysML-based products available (e.g., modeling software, integration tools, training services). • Compare features, target industries, and pricing strategies. 4. Market Opportunities: • Explore new or underserved industries where SysML adoption could grow (e.g., aerospace, automotive, healthcare). • Identify gaps in current product offerings that represent potential areas for innovation or competitive advantage. 5. Competitive Advantages: • Analyze what makes SysML valuable to companies (e.g., improving system complexity management, ensuring design consistency). • Evaluate how SysML tools offer a competitive advantage compared to alternative solutions like UML or other system modeling methods. 6. Challenges and Risks: • Discuss potential challenges such as market saturation, training requirements, or competing technologies. • Highlight external factors that could affect market growth, such as regulations or advances in adjacent industries.

Provide sources where relevant, including reports, studies, or insights from industry experts.”

Hvala.

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Post by [deleted] »

rickette wrote: post #41
singhrac wrote: post #31

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

"what model are you using, exact name please" is usually the first prompt I enter when trying out something.

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Post by viraptor »

MrScruff wrote: post #223
63 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's challenging because one person's "politics" is another person's "my extended family is being actively slaughtered in the middle east, how can I think or talk about anything else." Is the person wrong for that? The line for what is and isn't politics is incredibly blurry and is almost always drawn on the side of whoever already has the most privilege

That would still be politics, yes. What would be the benefit of discussing it at work? The particular example you give is one which is especially divisive. If someone feels emotionally affected by an issue to the point where they cannot focus on work they should take a leave of absence.

It's called being an understanding human. Unless you limit the topics to the weather and definitely not in the changing climate style, you will talk about real life quite often. And someone's real life may be a school dropoff one day and a grenade landing on their brother digging trenches in Ukraine the day after. If you hard nope out of tougher subjects, they're unlikely to talk much to you afterwards.

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Post by CRConrad »

felixg3 wrote: post #151
jiggawatts wrote: post #150

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> Talk about shipping the org chart. To be fair, Microsoft has shipped like five AI portals in the last two years. Maybe four — I don’t even know any more. I’ve lost track of the renames and product (re)launches.

They made a new one to unite them all: Microsoft Fabric. https://xkcd.com/927/

It's funny how by now, you know some xkcd numbers by heart.... Me, I'm a typical 386.
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