Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

Post by anigbrowl » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 3:01 AM UTC

alephnerd wrote: post #125

tim333 wrote: post #124

Vaguely related, Paul Graham tweeted "I worry Elon has no idea how much he has damaged his personal brand ...", re UK stuff and Elon posted a pages of text rant as a result. Not sure if it was written by him or Grok. I worry Elon's going a bit bonkers with drugs or whatever. Conversation here: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1879785727468163505

On that note, I've always wondered whether a lot of this is because of his Apartheid-era South African upbringing. Unlike a lot of White South Africans he's English, and they were viewed as outsiders by a number of Afrikaners. Same with with David Sacks being Jewish South African and Peter Thiel being the kid of German expats in ZA. On the other hand, Roelof Botha tends to remain outside the political limelight despi…

Post by zfg » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 3:06 AM UTC

coloneltcb wrote: post #64

platypii wrote: post #9

FSD makes Tesla superior to any car out there. No other car comes even close. Although I heard that FSD was already crippled in eu so maybe they aren't missing out as much.

I live in the US and I bought a Tesla in early 2020, it's easily the worst purchase I've ever made. The build quality is crap, the interior cheap feeling, and yes I got FSD and that is the worst part. FSD is only adequate in bumper to bumper traffic. Any other scenario it's not good enough to drive itself without you babysitting it. So if you have to babysit it, what's the point? It's actually worse to babysit it tha…

Post by hilux » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 3:12 AM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #128

alephnerd wrote: post #125

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On that note, I've always wondered whether a lot of this is because of his Apartheid-era South African upbringing. Unlike a lot of White South Africans he's English, and they were viewed as outsiders by a number of Afrikaners. Same with with David Sacks being Jewish South African and Peter Thiel being the kid of German expats in ZA. On the other hand, Roelof Botha tends to remain outside the political limelight despi…

I know Must talks about being bullied at school. I'm sure that contributes.

Post by bdangubic » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 3:17 AM UTC

Post by bdangubic » Thu, Feb 06, 2025, 3:22 AM UTC

throwaway5752 wrote: post #34

woodpanel wrote: post #27

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Completely uninformed statement. Its impressive what they achieved in such a short time but neither the xiaomi nor the BYD Seal is anywhere close to what it is mimicking.

Most people don't need or want FSD. They want an actual steering wheel and an actual stalk in order to activate turn signals. They want reliable well-made electric vehicles that don't take long to repair. Musk has spent many billions of dollars building something his target market doesn't require. Tesla does not currently have product-market fit. Musk should resign his board and CEO positions and stop interfering wit…