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> hope it will be get reined in before oops. they already have access to data, and there's no unseeing what they've seen.
They are also tweeting 'findings' to create a narrative. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885964969335808217
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People are throwing around the word "impoundment" lately. But it has a very specific meaning, and no impoundment has happened.
Virtually all of the spending through USAID was Congressionally authorized. Can you explain how blocking or delaying that spending fails to meet the definition of Impoundment? To say nothing the freezes that have been put on hold by the courts.
If you think there’s a violation of the impoundment act, you need to identify what the “program” is and why you think the administration won’t spend the whole program amount within the relevant time period.
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What Musk is describing is a deranged conspiracy theory, that "shadow left" doesn't exist except as a modern meme-driven equivalent to right-wing fears of communist infiltrators and Jews in academia. It turns out this generation's totenkopf is an AI generated shiba inu. And there isn't a "shadow right" either, but only because they're acting completely out in the open.
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I assume this is a prevalent mindset of a big chunk of Trump supporters. "I love it when half of my state government is at war with the remaining half, and I want the US government to be like that, so that it can't get anything done." Well, I guess that's better than being outright neo-Nazi ...
I see him as a somewhat useful tool of chaos but I'm under no illusion he is operating under anything but pursuit of personal gains.
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They will get a blanket pardon anyway. So in the end we will have to apologize to them.
> will get a blanket pardon Going into CMMS and IRS records almost certainly puts them in jeopardy of state crimes. Tight collections of only young, fervent ideologues have one role in military and political systems: cannon fodder.
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From 2008 on
That's not very specific. Can you list some events/actions/behaviors/etc that you see as analogous to what's going on today?
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What Musk is describing is a deranged conspiracy theory, that "shadow left" doesn't exist except as a modern meme-driven equivalent to right-wing fears of communist infiltrators and Jews in academia. It turns out this generation's totenkopf is an AI generated shiba inu. And there isn't a "shadow right" either, but only because they're acting completely out in the open.
It’s in-group/out-group narrative. In order to claim to be the good guys you have to invent a bad guy. It’s a power/ego game played by people who are abusive. Both parties play it.
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People are throwing around the word "impoundment" lately. But it has a very specific meaning, and no impoundment has happened.
Judge John McConnell disagrees with you. His decision placing a hold on the spending freeze cites the Impoundment Control Act as part of his finding that the lawsuit is likely to succeed on the merits.
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Has the government's right to mow down civilians with helicopter-mounted machine guns been tested in the Supreme Court lately? That's where there absolutely is room for debate. This argument can apply to literally anything.
It is different though. There are law journal articles debating whether the Impoundment Control Act is constitutional. And that isn’t a new thing, here’s one from 1990: https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/... There’s a big difference between a law for which there have been longstanding serious scholarly objections to its constitutionality, and a law whose constitutionality has never been quest…
Seems like there’s at least “a debate” to be had.
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That's not very specific. Can you list some events/actions/behaviors/etc that you see as analogous to what's going on today?
What's going on today with doge is what exactly? They're accessing payment systems, as advertised openly in a democratic election. You want analogies of a scrutinizing funding and then viciously calling for its retraction? Because pretty much all colors and creeds have done that.
Please show me an analog.