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Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Is it? Discord seems to be way better Teams are good enough

Discord seems to be way better You can't be serious. The search alone makes it atrocious for anything other than game servers. It's a problem enough people are trying to use Discord where they should have used proper forums.

Yet projects like LLVM use it

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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> hope it will be get reined in before oops. they already have access to data, and there's no unseeing what they've seen.

Of course there is “unseeing.” They can be tried for rather obvious crimes and thrown in prison.

They will get a blanket pardon anyway. So in the end we will have to apologize to them.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

> DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation This narrative infuriates me. Either you are right, and entire wings of our government are abetting a coup, or you are wrong, and our government has huge back doors that no one is watching. Both realities reveal something urgently broken with the United States. In a way that should scare the entire western world to its core.

I'm not really sure if you can call it a "coup" if all parties involved admit he was legitimately elected. Furthermore, this isn't exactly a bait-and-switch. He told us what exactly what he wanted to do. We already knew he would try to do illegal stuff. If you break the law and nobody who voted for you complains (unrealistic I realize, but bear with me), is the rule of law really that secure? If we only criticize Trump when he breaks the law, but not the democrats when they send arms to Israel in blatant violation of the Leahy Laws, how can we get upset when people push the boundaries further?

It's been more than 20 years (or might be about that?) that we passed the law that said "if you prosecute Bush for warcrimes we will invade the Hague". Granted, we were never a treaty cosigner (sharing the lovely company of Russia, North Korea, and Iran), but it's very convenient we have a "laws for thee but not for me" attitude.

Look I'm just saying we've been headed in this direction for a while and I don't expect the institutions we're supposed to care about preserving doing much to stop it. Americans need to get a lot more mad if they want politicians to represent them well. I'd hazard a guess most americans have never contacted their representatives, vote in their non-swing state (effectively making their vote worthless), and pat themselves on the back for a civic duty well done. I think we've gotten ourselves into a position where politicians who have spent most of their careers failing to pass legislation now need to pull political ability from who the hell knows where to actually follow through on their promise to fight facism. Very grim times.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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BOYCOTT TESLA, TWITTER, SPACEX. SELL YOUR $TSLA STOCK. Do it for America. And for the world. The rest of the planet is watching. America, get your shit together!!

was about to hit the international space station for the weekend but imma boycott the shit out of spacex now :)

and worry not, anyone owning tesla stock is getting their punishment eventually :)

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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post #156

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> hope it will be get reined in before oops. they already have access to data, and there's no unseeing what they've seen.

Of course there is “unseeing.” They can be tried for rather obvious crimes and thrown in prison.

Trump already pardoned 1600 violent insurectionists. If they get tried now, they'll be out of jail the very next day.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Man I’d hate to work in such a volatile environment.

That's probably part of the goal. Get people to quit and not replace them. One party has been on the "break the government to prove the government doesn't work" warpath for decades now

Perhaps revisit your premise prior to asserting malicious intent.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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I was assured right here on HN that the data was public to begin with, and downvoted for suggesting it was possible unseen corruption. Hopefully if that is true they find it just matches what has released publicly. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ty6853&next=42914628...

This whole operation is as related to finding corruption exhibits as the Moscow trials were to finding traitors in the Red Army. It is a (ridiculous) pretext for purging the system from people that the new power deems “uncooperative”.

It is hard for me to imagine any entrenched civil service being cooperative with plans to shit can their jobs. So I'm not sure that means much. Almost by human nature, most people are uncooperative ( and deemed such ) with plans to end their dental plan and rent money.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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please don't spread misinformation. it clearly has power, and has been demonstrably exercising that power. > to shine a light into dark places of government spending yes, I'm aware that this is the Official Position of the State. but quite obviously that is not what it is actually doing

What power exactly does it have? Be specific.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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> used by journalists and lawyers to hold government accountable. The journalists from Politico have just been ousted by DOGE has having had received $8 million in annual funding from USAID (another Government-run institution that has been ousted by the same DOGE), so I can understand how come Musk would want to keep DOGE's dealing away from journalists that might see this agency as very antithetic to their (the jour…

Wrong. The entire federal government has $8 million dollars worth of Politico Pro subscriptions (like Bloomberg terminal for public policy).

USAID spent $24k on those subscriptions.

Musk is full of shit. I have yet to see an example of such a claim that didn't end up being massively exaggerated or outright false.

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