DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

Post by skissane » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 9:57 PM UTC

zzzeek wrote: post #100

skissane wrote: post #96

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DOGE didn’t shut down USAID. Musk talked Trump and Rubio into doing it and they did. Musk is essentially a presidential advisor, and legally an advisor can advise the President to do pretty much anything. Even if the thing they are advising the President to do is illegal, the President is the one who bears the legal responsibility for the action, not the advisor. In really extreme cases, like if Musk were advising Tr…

> Musk talked Trump and Rubio into doing and they did. which is illegal. USAID can only be "shut down" by an act of Congress

Post by rawgabbit » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 10:01 PM UTC

unsupp0rted wrote: post #113

code_runner wrote: post #41

DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

> DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation What laws does it break? I like to watch those "Auditors" on Youtube who film in public places. Every cop assures them that filming a police officer / police station / inside a public library is illegal. About 25% of the time they detain them, and about 10% of the time they arrest them. When they ask what law they've broken, they never get a straight answer.

Post by jacobr1 » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

proggy wrote: post #112

slashdev wrote: post #84

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Zero power? Explain that to USAID, Treasury, OPM, and GSA. Actors working on behalf of digital services (i.e. DOGE) are commandeering IT systems and sending out ultimatums to the workforce about complying with their orders at risk of being punished with administrative leave for insubordination. It is a highly unlawful operation that goes far beyond the consult and advise mission you’re alluding to.

Post by alfiedotwtf » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 10:03 PM UTC

wavefunction wrote: post #132

unsupp0rted wrote: post #113

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> DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation What laws does it break? I like to watch those "Auditors" on Youtube who film in public places. Every cop assures them that filming a police officer / police station / inside a public library is illegal. About 25% of the time they detain them, and about 10% of the time they arrest them. When they ask what law they've broken, they never get a straight answer.

US' Privacy Act of 1974

Post by darth_avocado » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 10:04 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #122

darth_avocado wrote: post #108

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Yes. That’s how branches of government are set up. Judicial and legislative branches are supposed to keep the executive branch in check. Judicial branch is right now working to keep things in check but it will take time, resources and money to address every small thing. Opening the floodgates is a good strategy to overwhelm this branch. Which is where the legislative branch comes in. If they see the executive branch…

One side of the aisle is powerless. They can make speeches, but all legislative progress requires the approval of the Speaker of the House. Who will refer any legislation to a committee, which is also controlled by a committee chair of the same party.