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Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by duxup »

9283409232 wrote: post #293
duxup wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Changing data doesn't seem like their style, I suspect the pattern for this administration (based on past history): 1. Simply drop the topic and ignore it / drop the topic (arresting Hillary, china tariffs, etc). 2. Declare the problem fixed and again ignore it. 3. Blame the boogieman of the moment. And as usual just behave like children in order to fill the airways / distract.

Trump's last administration drew on a NOAA hurricane map with a sharpie to try to convince people he was not wrong about a hurricane path. Changing data is his style.

I honestly think that one was ignorance more than direct malice. I think he is in fact as ignorant / incurious as he seems.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by 9283409232 »

duxup wrote: post #301
9283409232 wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's last administration drew on a NOAA hurricane map with a sharpie to try to convince people he was not wrong about a hurricane path. Changing data is his style.

I honestly think that one was ignorance more than direct malice. I think he is in fact as ignorant / incurious as he seems.

Both are bad. Trump was wrong because he was speaking on outdated information but he wouldn't accept that he was wrong so his administration created some data so he could say he was right.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by Auracle »

albedoa wrote: post #291
Auracle wrote: post #247

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Many cage free chickens are also free range chickens, where they can roam outside. That massively increases their chances of picking up the bird flu, as opposed to those they are inside all day. I'm not advocating for one or the other, just explaining. Even cage free chickens will come into close enough proximity where they will all die if just one chicken picks up the flu. It's incredibly virulent.

You really, really need to be citing your sources. You have been bouncing back and forth between sounding authoritative and making assumptions or asking questions (or just being plain wrong).

I'm in a major turkey producing area and my wife worked for a national turkey producing company for 10 years. In 2015 it was all anyone heard about around here for months.

Granted, I don't know much about chickens, but a lot of this is common sense. I'm not sure what you think I'm wrong about.

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Post by StefanBatory »

epistasis wrote: post #133
bluedino wrote: post #118

Michigan here, this is has been made worse by a new law requiring all eggs to be 'cage-free'. I think I paid $9 for the cheap store-brand eggs (18) last week. And that is, if they even have any eggs at the store. I've been to Wal-mart and Kroger when the entire section is empty with a sign saying there are egg supply issues. It's also winter so my 'chicken farmer friends' are low on eggs, when it's cold the chickens…

How does cage free make this worse? The supply shortages are coming from avian flu in every report I have heard.

Could be that normally this wouldn't have caused much shortage or price increase, but that in conjunction with avian flu it escalated.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by IncreasePosts »

joe8756438 wrote: post #226

I’ve got a flock, not counting infrastructure my costs are tied directly to feed. I source local non-gmo and herbicide free grains. My cost is about $3/doz. It’s unusual to be so close to a farm that produces the variety of grain at that level of quality. A local farm that produces on a large scale and sources grain from the same farm charges $8/doz. Seems totally fair, if not a little too cheap.

Are you counting your labor and coops as free?

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Post by chneu »

duxup wrote: post #301
9283409232 wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's last administration drew on a NOAA hurricane map with a sharpie to try to convince people he was not wrong about a hurricane path. Changing data is his style.

I honestly think that one was ignorance more than direct malice. I think he is in fact as ignorant / incurious as he seems.

Stop making excuses for an abuser who has repeatedly shown he isn't as stupid as he'd like you to think he is.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by mplanchard »

njarboe wrote: post #292
mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

The local eggs here have the same price but they are selling out very quickly. $9.50 a dozen and used to have them all week. They come in on Friday evening and now sell out quickly. People are probably buying more than they used to when available and that is making the scarcity worse.

We're lucky enough to have a pretty substantial network of local suppliers. Our grocery carries eggs from at least six local farms that I can think of off the top of my head.

I've read that some of the farms are having a hard time keeping up with both the increased demand from groceries and also trying to keep eggs available for their regular farmstand customers and such, but it seems like so far there is enough slack in the system that it's working out okay.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by ars »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #252
ars wrote: post #173

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Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu. Chickens get it from wild birds that land near them. States are going to have to repeal those laws and confine chickens in sealed buildings to protect them.

> Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu Source? Why is it only American free-range egg farms are being affected, while Canada and Mexico’s are being spared?

https://www.timesunion.com/capitol/article/cage-free-egg-bil...

"Avian flu experts have called for caution in implementing cage-free requirements, noting that poultry exposed to the outdoors have a higher risk of contracting the virus."

https://www.wattagnet.com/poultry-meat/diseases-health/avian...

"Incorporating lasers that deter wild bird populations into biosecurity protocols can help prevent the spread of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) between commercial poultry farms."

> Why is it only American free-range egg farms are being affected, while Canada and Mexico’s are being spared?

Mexico immunizes their birds, which is highly labor intensive, which they can afford due to low wages and the US can't.

Canada is far north and the infected wild birds have not gone that far in large numbers (although the numbers are increasing).

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by duxup »

chneu wrote: post #307
duxup wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly think that one was ignorance more than direct malice. I think he is in fact as ignorant / incurious as he seems.

Stop making excuses for an abuser who has repeatedly shown he isn't as stupid as he'd like you to think he is.

It's not "making excuses" I genuinely think what I said.

This kinda recrimination and such aren't helping anything.

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