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Post by albedoa »

Auracle wrote: post #247
carb wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true when you're talking about foxes and wolves, but not if you're talking about an airborne flu. Rows of adjacent cages keeping groups of chickens in close proximity with each other with shared air.

Many cage free chickens are also free range chickens, where they can roam outside. That massively increases their chances of picking up the bird flu, as opposed to those they are inside all day. I'm not advocating for one or the other, just explaining. Even cage free chickens will come into close enough proximity where they will all die if just one chicken picks up the flu. It's incredibly virulent.

You really, really need to be citing your sources. You have been bouncing back and forth between sounding authoritative and making assumptions or asking questions (or just being plain wrong).

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Post by njarboe »

mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

The local eggs here have the same price but they are selling out very quickly. $9.50 a dozen and used to have them all week. They come in on Friday evening and now sell out quickly. People are probably buying more than they used to when available and that is making the scarcity worse.

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Post by 9283409232 »

duxup wrote: post #215
davidw wrote: post #171

I've been fiddling around with the Albertsons API for fun. It's kind of neat to see a whole year's worth of purchases in nicely formatted JSON. I have half an idea to create something like a personal inflation tracker, but I'm still thinking about it. It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actu…

Changing data doesn't seem like their style, I suspect the pattern for this administration (based on past history): 1. Simply drop the topic and ignore it / drop the topic (arresting Hillary, china tariffs, etc). 2. Declare the problem fixed and again ignore it. 3. Blame the boogieman of the moment. And as usual just behave like children in order to fill the airways / distract.

Trump's last administration drew on a NOAA hurricane map with a sharpie to try to convince people he was not wrong about a hurricane path. Changing data is his style.

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Post by aj_icracked »

afavour wrote: post #84
mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

This is also a great defense against something like bird flu. When you centralize operations a disease can spread through a population like wildfire. When it's a number of smaller, separate operations the impact is lessened.

Totally agree with this. After selling my last company (iCracked W12) I had been playing around with the idea of how to build the world's largest decentralized food production network - think millions of people leveraging their backyards to produce, share, and sell protein and vegetables. I've always wanted to build a company that blends smart home / AI technology with backyard agriculture and we decided to start with chickens. I have been raising chickens for 15 years and automating my coops with Arduino's, automatic doors, cameras for computer vision, etc.

We spent 2 years building and designing a AI / smart coop and it's been a fascinating company to be able to build. We've trained our computer vision model on around 25 million videos and have gotten extremely good at doing specific predator detection, egg alerts, remote health monitoring, specific chickens in a coop and behaviors etc. We're at the point now where we can say, "Hey AJ, there's 2 raccoons outside your coop, the automatic door is shut, all 6 chickens are safe, and you have 10 eggs that can be collected". Super fun project and would love y'alls feedback. If you're interested in seeing what we're doing we're at www.TheSmartCoop.com

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Post by jandrewrogers »

zo1 wrote: post #97
jeffbee wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eggs store pretty poorly in the fridge because liquids transpire through the shell. Within a month your egg will be 20% air.

This is disturbing and not what I found with eggs at all - Are eggs somehow different in the US compared to the rest of the world?

Eggs in the US, Canada, Japan, Scandinavia, and a couple other countries are washed, which removes a layer that seals the egg. Eggs are a major vector for salmonella contamination; washing them materially reduces the incidence rates.

It is not egg specific. The countries that wash their eggs have atypically strong standards for bacterial contamination hygiene in food processing. Many food products from Europe are prohibited from import into the US due to insufficient safeguards against bacterial contamination during processing. There is an entire business where Scandinavian factories process food from distant parts of Europe to satisfy US food safety requirements for export.

As a general principle, the US does not create exemptions in food processing regulations on the basis that the existing process is "traditional" or has a long history. Many other countries do.

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Post by Garvi »

lukas099 wrote: post #272
oceanplexian wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually the inconvenient truth is that it's not. Free range birds are able to interact and spread the disease more easily than the caged birds which can be quarantined. At least in my location all the cage free inventory is totally wiped out.

Free range birds cannot be quarantined?

The problem is the interaction with wild birds.

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Post by taftster »

proudestmonkey wrote: post #46

Time to buy chickens!!!

You'll have a significant upfront cost for the coop, fencing, feeders and other equipment. Around $1000-2000 or so. And presumably, you'll be buying baby chickens, which require their own special care. It takes about 6 months for a baby chicken to start laying eggs.

But once you do that, you can maybe get to a reasonable place. The upfront cost being ignored, at today's egg prices, you can basically break even.

I have 9 egg laying chickens. They go through about $30 of food per month. They need another $20 in bedding supplies. $50 / month basically. Plus I spoil them with meal worm treats, so add another $30 per month for that (but I'll ignore that in my numbers below).

In winter, I average about 5 eggs per day out of my 9 chickens. In summer, it's closer to 8 per day. So we'll assume the best case here.

    8 per day * 30 days per month = 240 eggs
    $50 per month supplies / 20 dozen eggs = $2.50 / dozen
So not bad overall. But in winter it's worse, and my costs are higher because I give them worms.

We can't eat through all the eggs though, so we try to find nice people/places to give them away (single moms, food banks, etc.).

Ultimately, raising chickens is just for fun. They are pets and enjoyable creatures. Highly recommend if you have the land for it (and no HOA rules).

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Post by jghn »

phil21 wrote: post #286
jghn wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a city and buy most of my fresh produce, meat, and dairy from local farms.

Which is not scalable for the entire big city. My parents are organic market gardeners, and there is simply no way that model could scale up enough to feed that many people cheaply. Food budgets would have to go back to the 1940's or earlier - where they were a significant fraction of take home pay. Now they are almost a rounding error comparatively. I don't necessarily think that would be a bad thing. A lot of the a…

You put your finger on what I think is the real issue: whether or not access to cheap food is a net benefit or not. I also won't claim to have the perfect answer but do feel we've gone at least a bit too far in one direction.

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Post by Auracle »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #256
Auracle wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many cage free chickens are also free range chickens, where they can roam outside. That massively increases their chances of picking up the bird flu, as opposed to those they are inside all day. I'm not advocating for one or the other, just explaining. Even cage free chickens will come into close enough proximity where they will all die if just one chicken picks up the flu. It's incredibly virulent.

> That massively increases their chances of picking up the bird flu, as opposed to those they are inside all day Are they getting bird flu at a higher frequency?

I'm in a turkey producing area - one of the largest in the country. What helped massively in 2015 was to simply put fine netting over the windows to the turkey barns, keeping other birds and at least some of their excrement out.

This is from Australia, but whatever:

"In Australia, indoor and free-range poultry, are at risk of contracting avian influenza due direct and indirect contact with waterfowl who may carry avian influenza virus in their nasal and eye discharge or faeces, farming and biosecurity practices.

Indoor (barn or shed) systems limit poultry from direct exposure to wild birds, but these are not immune to avian influenza risks due to indirect contact. This is because equipment, vehicles and human movements between farms can introduce the virus indoors, in particular when on-farm dams or open water sources act as a permanent residence for waterfowl.

Birds with outdoor access (free range) are at risk of coming into direct or indirect contact with wild waterfowl. Vegetated range areas may attract waterfowl, in particular if poultry are given feed or water outdoors. In free-range production systems, producers should therefore focus on managing these systems to reduce the risk of avian influenza."

https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-is-the-risk-of-f...

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