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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by freeAgent »

apparent wrote: post #707
freeAgent wrote: post #699

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I think they may have locked it behind iCloud+ because one of the big features it offers is a shared photo album, which of course utilizes iCloud. Anyone without iCloud+ is essentially going to be unable to use that feature. And yeah...it also pushes people into paying for iCloud+, though you can get on the $1/mo plan in order to access this, so it's not like it's very expensive.

You get 5GB of iCloud storage for free. I figured this was a way to get people closer to/over the limit. I get that the iCloud tiers start cheap, but having 50GB doesn't really do anything for me since it's still not big enough to back up an iPhone. And there's zero chance I'm going to start paying for a monthly service in order to get access to an evite clone that I would use a couple times a year. Maybe there are b…

I assume one could start and then cancel a subscription, though, so you could just pay about a buck every time you want to use the app. That’s a lot of friction, though.

I have iCloud+ base tier, but I use it just for iMessage, Drive, and other non-photo apps (I back up my photos to my NAS). I don’t back up my whole phone because all the data I care about is already backed up. I also like being able to use Private Relay when I want. All that is to say that for me the $1 plan is great and I still have plenty of space for shared album photos from events (which I later will move off of iCloud). But I get that I’m a pretty unusual use case.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by gandalfgreybeer »

JadoJodo wrote: post #840

I will be honest that I was very disappointed that this didn't include physical (mailed) invites: Apple already has the capability for printed materials via their Photos app, third-party printing services. This service is only a half-measure (in my mind) because some of the people I want to invite are: - Not deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem (this is a weak critique, as the invite URL only requires an email addr…

I prefer physical invites too, but in the context of this, physical printing sounds like a lot of unnecessary overhead and extra work that will yield little to no significant added value on the side of Apple.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by piltdownman »

simonask wrote: post #783
astrange wrote: post #344

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This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.

Apple/iOS has market dominance in several places outside the US, including Japan, Canada, Scandinavia, and several other European nations. It has a slight majority in the UK. Android has worldwide dominance overall, but people tend to communicate locally. Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

Nobody uses iMessage in Europe. It's an american phenomenon like beepers, caused by different market conditions.

In Europe the kids use Snapchat. Adults use WhatsApp for most calls, messages and rich media, and maybe Signal/Telegram for select groups or grey activities. The elderly use Facebook messenger and WhatsApp.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by JadoJodo »

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #842
JadoJodo wrote: post #840

I will be honest that I was very disappointed that this didn't include physical (mailed) invites: Apple already has the capability for printed materials via their Photos app, third-party printing services. This service is only a half-measure (in my mind) because some of the people I want to invite are: - Not deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem (this is a weak critique, as the invite URL only requires an email addr…

I prefer physical invites too, but in the context of this, physical printing sounds like a lot of unnecessary overhead and extra work that will yield little to no significant added value on the side of Apple.

My thought is that it's an optional, premium feature of the invite that I'd gladly pay for some events.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by pinoy420 »

GiorgioG wrote: post #805
abenga wrote: post #778

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Because we want to interact with our friends and family without being forced to switch platforms. I don't care about Apple's business model.

The self-entitlement is getting old. Nobody's forcing you to switch platforms. If your Apple-friends send you an invite, you will not be shunned from the event. Yes even the uncool non-Apple users will be allowed to participate in said invite.

Got to love the HN bubble. Anti anti apple is immediate downvote even with a sensible argument like yourself…

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by PaulHoule »

varenc wrote: post #715
ACS_Solver wrote: post #474

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I very rarely interact with any Apple tech. Recently I wanted to watch Severance, so I signed up for a trial period of Apple TV. It even worked on Firefox on my Linux desktop. But I only get 1080p video, while my screen is 1440p. The show didn't look good, and I found that yes, you can only get 1080p if you're not watching through an Apple device. I would have been happy to become a subscriber of the streaming servic…

Do any mainstream streaming services offer you greater than 1080p on desktop Linux? I had thought that none of them allow it due to the perception of weaker DRM. And because 90% of consumers watching on desktop really care/notice

I can't say I care that much: 1080p quality pixels are really good, I'd prefer that to messy 4k with visible blocking artifacts.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by arkh »

eknkc wrote: post #300
pkamb wrote: post #256

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I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

Everytime iMessage is mentioned, I do a double take because it is almost non existent here in Turkey. And from what I hear, seems like most Europeans do not use it too. WhatsApp has like 99.9% market share here and I assume it is a lot bigger than anything else in the EU too. I wonder why is that though. Everyone around me has an iPhone basically and I haven’t received a blue bubble in years. The messages app is not…

> Everyone around me has an iPhone

You may be in a bubble.

Huawei and other Chinese phones are not banned in the EU. So you can get your hands on 100€ to 200€ smartphones which are more than enough for most people. Hence a lot less iPhones (but a ton more spywares).

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by thesuitonym »

john2x wrote: post #378
thesuitonym wrote: post #320

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iMessage has been compatible with RCS for months now.

A quick search suggests the Android user end needs to install 3rd party apps for it to work? Has that changed recently?

I don't know, I haven't used Android in quite a few years, but it was my understanding that it was in Google's default SMS app. When I got iOS 18, all of my texts to Android users switched automatically to RCS, so they didn't have to do anything.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by rchaud »

Schiendelman wrote: post #570
ryandrake wrote: post #486

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This tracks so well as an indicator, with many other products. As soon as the company starts making money, their product is going to become awful and it's time to find an alternative. Why can't tech escape this cycle?

It has. Apple escaped this cycle. Their software is great. Instead of you being the product, you buy the product. People then just complain the product is expensive. On this website, I roll my eyes.

Apple stuff has always been expensive, and never once has Apple justified raising the price because they're 'privacy friendly'.

Apple has a multi-billion dollar ads business. You are still the product, even if the execution isn't as brazenly anti-consumer as Google and Facebook.

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