The event organizing space in my country is all Facebook events, it begs some proper disruption. I'm no fan of Apple's walled garden, because I believe public events should be fully accessible to the public, but it's hard to understate how bad Facebook events are if you do not use its apps and don't have an account. I'm talking about things like missing a crucial time/location change from the organizer because Facebook does not show non-logged in users any event posts. So, while I hope that Apple fails at walling off events, I do hope some proper disruption happens in the space.
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#702I'm in my mid-thirties and most of my friends have ditched Facebook. I didn't really realize this until when I used it to create an event for a house party... I was somewhat surprised that only 2 people out of 15 even saw it. I ended up resorting to good old text message and that worked, but it was tedious. Not sure how popular this will become, but having a social-media-less event invite/broadcasting system would be…
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#703The event organizing space in my country is all Facebook events, it begs some proper disruption. I'm no fan of Apple's walled garden, because I believe public events should be fully accessible to the public, but it's hard to understate how bad Facebook events are if you do not use its apps and don't have an account. I'm talking about things like missing a crucial time/location change from the organizer because Facebo…
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#704I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
Meh. You’re fighting a losing battle. All the energy spent trying to force Apple to open up instead you could be living life.
I think this line is a good compromise: “iCloud+ subscribers can create invitations, and anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device.”
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#705Interesting. The word "calendar" does not appear on the Apple Invites announcement webpage. Does it integrate with Calendar? If not, I'm not sure how well this will fit into my daily routine - I definitely need events to appear on my calendar, not (just) in a dedicated "Events" app.
There's a button at the top of the event page (after it's created) to add it to your calendar, but it's a bit strange that you even have to do that manually.
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#706Earlier quoted context omitted.
WhatsApp absolutely has hardware lock-in. You need to be an Apple or Google customer to use it, and you need at least one Android or iOS phone.
Is it possible to install WhatsApp on one of the three major 3rd-party AOSP-based operating systems (distros): Graphene OS, Calyx OS, or Lineage OS? Each one has varying models for replacing functionality of the Google Play Services, and IIRC the Aurora store [1] allows for installation of apps from Google Play without a Google account. It's not a combination of steps that would be accessible to the average user, but…
It is. Works great without Google services (maybe pushes don’t work though, I can’t remember), or with microG.
> It's not a combination of steps that would be accessible to the average user
Tangential, but I’m thinking about starting a degoogled phone shop. Not sure if it’s a good business idea, but I think there is at least some demand there.
EDIT: aurorastore[.]org you link to is not the official site by the way. I’d not trust the APKs you get there. The official is https://auroraoss.com/ (and the downloads on F-Droid should be legit, too).
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#707Earlier quoted context omitted.
Before I saw it was iCloud+ only, I thought it was a sort-of clever way to get people even more locked into the ecosystem. I assumed that the shared photos would add to people's reliance on iCloud, and get some to upgrade to higher tiers to fit all their photos. I was quite surprised to learn it wasn't free. I had heard about this "sherlocking" on Twitter but hadn't read the details. I can't think of a time when Appl…
I think they may have locked it behind iCloud+ because one of the big features it offers is a shared photo album, which of course utilizes iCloud. Anyone without iCloud+ is essentially going to be unable to use that feature. And yeah...it also pushes people into paying for iCloud+, though you can get on the $1/mo plan in order to access this, so it's not like it's very expensive.
You get 5GB of iCloud storage for free. I figured this was a way to get people closer to/over the limit.
I get that the iCloud tiers start cheap, but having 50GB doesn't really do anything for me since it's still not big enough to back up an iPhone. And there's zero chance I'm going to start paying for a monthly service in order to get access to an evite clone that I would use a couple times a year. Maybe there are big partiers out there that would upgrade just for this, but this seems like an impending flop to me.
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#708I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.
> Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless.
Worked really, really well for Facebook for about a decade or so.
> Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.
I had no idea! TIL!
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#709Non apple users are not invited? Nice if you only interact with people in the Apple bubble.
It's the same reason people in europe don't use Facetime a lot. Because there's a majority of users on Android. A chat/call app that only works on Apple is more trouble than it is worth.
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#710I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
But isn’t that the same when people and schools create effing Facebook groups and events or whatever they are called and find it hard to believe that people don’t use that crap. Or create WhatsApp groups and communities and so on and on.
or when you look for a FOSS project's documentation and it just says "Join our Discord!". Grrrrr. Nope.