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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by worthless-trash »

Schiendelman wrote: post #565
NoPicklez wrote: post #453

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I'm an Apple guy and I have to disagree, it's not the Telco's. Android implemented RCS and Apple dragged their feet in implementing the standardised platform such that high quality messaging was seamless and agnostic between brands The iPhone needed to reduce the quality of pics/videos to non-iMessage recipients because Apple didn't support any other form of non-iMessage messaging.

Have you tried using RCS when you're used to iMessage? It's terrible . Constant failures, weird behavior when changing towers between telcos - not to mention what happens when traveling internationally, where RCS turns on, off, on, off... for a day after arrival. And of course there's no encryption standard.

I use it every day and across multiple countries in Asia Pacific with no issues.

Maybe its your phone going overseas and not working correctly.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by dagmx »

fooblaster wrote: post #656
lttlrck wrote: post #629

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It's the first button when you open FaceTime. Is that also too subjective?

the experience from the opposite side is the relevant part here. I recall the many years I was sent iMessages but unable to remove my phone number so that I could receive sms messages on my new android phone. The user experience from iOS phones sending me messages I would never receive was "great".

Over those many years you didn’t bother to google that you can just turn it off online? https://support.apple.com/en-ca/102455

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by DavidPiper »

Honestly, if I have to pay 99c a month to get the only remaining thing I use Facebook regularly for, I'll pay it to get off Facebook.

This could be a solid play, assuming non-Apple recipients get a decent experience across all of their devices.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by igor47 »

GiorgioG wrote: post #609
aidenn0 wrote: post #566

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But lots of features are likely to be unavailable to invitees (indeed the article specifically mentions a couple) without Apple devices. Apple loves to use network effects to make people with Android phones feel like outsiders.

The paranoia is real.

Apple has given me zero reason to trust it, and lots of reasons not to? I mean, it's a closed ecosystem. I'm not sure how this is arguable...

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by thayne »

plandis wrote: post #631
saintfire wrote: post #627

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I think calling it just "color of the bubble" downplays the intentional degredation of chat quality for everyone in the chat in order to encourage exclusion, presumably to create FOMO. Incidentally FOMO is a very powerful among youth, but it's still a thing for any group in some capacity. Not that I personally cared, as i see it as an Apple flaw, but in joining a work iMessage group I had people whining about image q…

The last I looked into this, iMessage offers end to end encryption and RCS doesn't by default. Apple (rightfully, IMO) refuses to use Googles non open source end to end encryption extension that also would require key exchange on Google owned servers.

> RCS doesn't by default

That isn't exactly accurate. The standard doesn't have e2ee, but if you use google messages with RCS with other android phone it is end to end encrypted. But it uses a proprietary google extension to RCS. But I would be surprised if google wasn't willing to work with apple to get e2ee RCS working between iMessage and google Messages, but Apple has no interest in that.

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Post by StressedDev »

pkamb wrote: post #377
Zak wrote: post #341

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That's only true if everyone in the group has an Apple phone, which has decreasing probability with every additional member. Excluding people from a conversation because they don't have the right brand of phone would be pretty antisocial.

In the USA, someone insisting on using an Android when everyone else in their social circle has an iPhone (and they do!) is what's seen as anti-social. No one wants to use the degraded green bubble SMS experience so they simply exclude the Android user and continue using blue bubble iMessage.

I have never ever seen this. If your "friends" treat you badly because of your phone choice, they are not really your friends. Also, iMessage is not that great. It's nice but it is not amazing like some people make it out to be.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Tiktaalik »

It's incredible on Instagram I see so many events that people are posting via their stories and there is no ability to save this to my calendar or action on it in any way.

I gotta take a photo, and then write it down in my calendar by hand.

Just wild really how Meta is letting the advantage they currently have slip through their fingers.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Tiktaalik »

cleverwebble wrote: post #51

I'm in my mid-thirties and most of my friends have ditched Facebook. I didn't really realize this until when I used it to create an event for a house party... I was somewhat surprised that only 2 people out of 15 even saw it. I ended up resorting to good old text message and that worked, but it was tedious. Not sure how popular this will become, but having a social-media-less event invite/broadcasting system would be…

People currently use Instagram stories for this a lot and it's absolutely wild how Meta hasn't caught on and built in any sort of infrastructure for you to save and keep track of events.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by notpushkin »

paper2d wrote: post #651
manmal wrote: post #503

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An Android emulator with Play Services should work in theory, but I haven’t tried it. They could have extra checks to prevent that.

You can install whatsapp on degoogled phones as well! No need of play services.

This.

I think there’s also an unofficial Python library, so you can write a simple script that keeps your account active (and use the web client).

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