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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Zak »

pkamb wrote: post #256
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

That's only true if everyone in the group has an Apple phone, which has decreasing probability with every additional member. Excluding people from a conversation because they don't have the right brand of phone would be pretty antisocial.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by brap »

eknkc wrote: post #300
pkamb wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

Everytime iMessage is mentioned, I do a double take because it is almost non existent here in Turkey. And from what I hear, seems like most Europeans do not use it too. WhatsApp has like 99.9% market share here and I assume it is a lot bigger than anything else in the EU too. I wonder why is that though. Everyone around me has an iPhone basically and I haven’t received a blue bubble in years. The messages app is not…

Same, I’m not even European, but literally everyone uses WhatsApp for everything where I live, iPhones or not.

The only thing I get in my Messages app is verification codes and spam.

I don’t think I got a single SMS/iMessage from a human in the last 5 years.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by [deleted] »

PaulHoule wrote: post #254

Even though "... anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device" I think this being an Apple branded service is going to make this appear exclusionary and will mean some people won't participate even if they could. I see the same risk involved with Apple TV's branding; Apple TV works great on Xbox, on NVIDIA Shield and on PC. I'm sure though there are a lot of people who just decide…

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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by astrange »

echelon wrote: post #327
happyopossum wrote: post #222

My wife is in a position (board chair for a co-op) that results in her sending out a lot of invites to events. Evite has kinda been the go-to in her social/co-op group for ages, but man it suuuuuuucks these days. Ads everywhere, annoying patterns, and lacks a bunch of nice features that this seems to have. Very happy to see this

Luma and Partiful are really good. This Apple thing is going to turn into a "green text" social signalling thing all over again. If you have an Android, you won't be invited. More scummy Apple social engineering bullshit. Kids that already hate on those having Android colored text bubbles are going to bully each other even more. And of course kids need the latest iPhone, too. Apple is playing into this brilliantly an…

This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by ghaff »

mrguyorama wrote: post #331
ghaff wrote: post #232

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The whole green bubble thing has got to be one of the stupidest status symbol things I've seen in a long time. Though I have no doubt there are many of them. If anything, it's maybe a good life lesson that many supposed status symbols are breathtakingly stupid to care about.

>some supposed status symbols are breathtakingly stupid to care about. All status symbols are stupid, that's part of the point. That has never mattered. It doesn't matter how stupid a symbol is, it can still have tangible effects on you and your life. Humans are social animals first and foremost, and are not rational in any way. Tribalism is literally the point.

You're not entirely wrong but also not my nor Apple's problem. Things like universities can be status symbols but they're mostly not entirely status symbols. Plenty of other things like that too.

But if it's not bubble color, it will be the type of sneakers kids wear or whatever else is the fashion of the moment.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by 42772827 »

slt2021 wrote: post #323
boringg wrote: post #238

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Evite was hot for awhile - totally gone downhill. Same as meetups. Tough to make those things as paid businesses which is probably necessary to keep them operating well (or at least take VC money and try and make a return).

I see people using Luma everywhere these days

Luma and Gemini have very similar logos, it’s kind of off putting

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by ggm »

anotherhue wrote: post #7

> Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription.

the iBrand hasn't done a good job of explaining that no apple hardware product has to be bought, to sign up to this cloud.

In some ways, "Cloud, by Apple" would have been better because it could have had a subsidiary tagline 'open to anyone' -where iPhone, iPad are pretty solidly walled garden devices.

I'm not in marketing. I am sure smart marketing people would point out downsides. I just think iCloud "says" -not for me, unless I have an iPhone.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by mrguyorama »

dylan604 wrote: post #114
cptcobalt wrote: post #29

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Less latency is a feature , not a bug. We've just grown too used to latency in everything we use.

The lag between OTA broadcast and cable/streaming is insanely bad. We had several screens tuned in to World Cup, and the group watching the OTA broadcast would cheer 15-20 seconds before the cable/streaming screens would. Knowing it exists is one thing, but seeing it in that manner puts it on a whole other level

Why does it matter that information from a sports event that you are 1000 miles away from gets to you 3 seconds later?

Why do you care? Why is it a negative?

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by echelon »

astrange wrote: post #344
echelon wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luma and Partiful are really good. This Apple thing is going to turn into a "green text" social signalling thing all over again. If you have an Android, you won't be invited. More scummy Apple social engineering bullshit. Kids that already hate on those having Android colored text bubbles are going to bully each other even more. And of course kids need the latest iPhone, too. Apple is playing into this brilliantly an…

This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.

It shouldn't be allowed in the US. Lina Khan was going to put a stop to it, but tragically that didn't reach its culmination.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Workaccount2 »

RIMR wrote: post #213
roddylindsay wrote: post #28

Brilliant move. The transition of the major social networks over the last 10-15 years -- from being a space for friends to interact to being a space to consume content produced by "unconnected" entities like influencers -- has created a huge opening for someone to claim the friends and family network. There is no one better positioned (at least in the U.S. where iPhones are the majority handset) than Apple.

The problem is that by vendor-locking these services to Apple users, they create an environment that alienates non-Apple users. If they want to truly claim the friends & family network, they need to remember that everyone has friends & family that aren't in the Apple ecosystem. So long as Facebook remains available to everyone, even if the content feed is a mess, the event planning space is going to be more accessibl…

>If they want to truly claim the friends & family network, they need to remember that everyone has friends & family that aren't in the Apple ecosystem.

They are completely aware of it an actively leverage it to use your friends and family against you to force you into Apple's ecosystem. It's the main reason why Android will have to get pretty bad before I bend to such incredibly dirty tactics.

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