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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by plandis »

saintfire wrote: post #627
yapyap wrote: post #621

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

I think calling it just "color of the bubble" downplays the intentional degredation of chat quality for everyone in the chat in order to encourage exclusion, presumably to create FOMO. Incidentally FOMO is a very powerful among youth, but it's still a thing for any group in some capacity. Not that I personally cared, as i see it as an Apple flaw, but in joining a work iMessage group I had people whining about image q…

The last I looked into this, iMessage offers end to end encryption and RCS doesn't by default. Apple (rightfully, IMO) refuses to use Googles non open source end to end encryption extension that also would require key exchange on Google owned servers.

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Post by [deleted] »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #529
bossyTeacher wrote: post #489

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It's the same. They are all walled gardens (whether hardware walled gardens or software walled gardens)

As much I deeply dislike Meta, it's not the same. I can simply open the Play store install facebook or Instagram. For the Apple walled garden, I need to spend $800+ USD

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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by pishpash »

caycep wrote: post #457
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

its not like I'm feeling super free of lock in when I'm using FB invites, partiful, or evite.

Does this have an Android app? Because the other ones do.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by plandis »

talldayo wrote: post #359
canucker2016 wrote: post #357

I think some demographic info can be useful in judging the potential uptake. Apple iPhone ownership amongst USA teens: 2024: 87% 2019: 83% 2014: 67% https://www.iclarified.com/95177/87-of-us-teens-own-iphones-... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/piper-jaffray-completes-se... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/different-new-cool-accordi... Smartphone marketshare for iPhone in various countries: 65%: Norway 59%: Sweden…

> Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription. I really wonder what the uptake is on iCloud+ subscriptions.

Not sure but services overall is one of Apples fastest growing business segments.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by bmitc »

canucker2016 wrote: post #413
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

Blame the telcos for the relative poor quality of text message multimedia (via MMS). The telcos specify the size limits of MMS messages. iMessage has much higher limits in most cases, so iPhone has to use reduce the quality of the pics/videos to reach the lower size limits for sending to non-iMessage recipients. For the telcos, why would they upgrade their size limits for MMS - it's just a cost centre for them. They…

It's not the telcos. My family can't send my Android phone a text because Apple intercepts it and sends it as an iMessage instead.

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Post by borski »

pishpash wrote: post #630
calmworm wrote: post #622

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The color of the bubble is, at least partially, a security feature for me. When it’s blue, I am certain there is a person on the other end, not a bot, spammer, ai, etc…

Except it guarantees nothing of the sort.

Say more.

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Post by mattmaroon »

ryandrake wrote: post #486
mjamesaustin wrote: post #338

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Currently Partiful doesn't generate revenue, which is evidence for its quality. As soon as the purse strings get attached, it'll be time to get out. But for now, it's an excellent service.

This tracks so well as an indicator, with many other products. As soon as the company starts making money, their product is going to become awful and it's time to find an alternative. Why can't tech escape this cycle?

I mean it does escape the cycle, lots of products charge money and aren't awful. The ones that are awful are mostly the ones people don't pay for, or things that use the freemium business model.

Most things that just charge a subscription are good and get better.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by isodev »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

I hope this fails too. Apple is the platform, it's not their place to be making social/utility apps. There are plenty of alternatives, if Apple really wanted one, they could have funded an indie effort or literally anything other than making a first party app.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by taurknaut »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

Hey it's better than using facebook. I haven't received an invite in almost eight years because I haven't been on the platform.
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