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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by yapyap »

basisword wrote: post #546
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by calmworm »

yapyap wrote: post #621
basisword wrote: post #546

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Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

The color of the bubble is, at least partially, a security feature for me. When it’s blue, I am certain there is a person on the other end, not a bot, spammer, ai, etc…

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by [deleted] »

JimDabell wrote: post #581
lmm wrote: post #552

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Facebook you can access through any browser, on any hardware, and without having to pay for it. Not remotely comparable to Apple-only stuff. $1000 or whatever an iPhone costs these days is a lot of money for some people.

> $1000 or whatever an iPhone costs these days Why do people always make up iPhone prices when the truth is readily available? You can buy a brand-new, unsubsidised iPhone for less than half that, and that’s not counting second-hand devices or phones on a contract, which are both incredibly common ways of getting a phone.

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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by satvikpendem »

yapyap wrote: post #621
basisword wrote: post #546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

> but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth

It's not the color itself that's the problem, it's that having one green user means the entire conversation falls back to SMS and thus photos, videos, etc are all degraded and you can't do more rich messaging things like reactions. This is changing with RCS but it is in Apple's interest to make it a social change rather than just a technological limitation.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by cebert »

I tried out the app tonight. I generally like the concept. However, I wish the “add playlist” feature wasn’t limited to Apple Music.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by halostatue »

m0zzie wrote: post #404
halostatue wrote: post #314

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Looks neat, but I won't use it or recommend it to anyone because it's built with Flutter. I understand your reasons for choosing it, but that does not change that Flutter apps feel completely _wrong_ on any platform except Android, but most especially on iOS/macOS and the web. (This is unsurprising because Flutter is essentially a modern day implementation of Swing complete with personalities, and it's just as incorr…

> Flutter apps feel completely _wrong_ on any platform except Android [...] Flutter explicitly eschews standard web technologies in favour of either one big canvas or lots of little canvases. I think you're confused about how Flutter works on Android. It's not native to Android, it uses canvas with custom drawn implementations of most components there too – same as it does for iOS/macOS/web.

Oh, I’m not confused; there is no "native" for Flutter. I just don't think that Android has a meaningful platform aesthetic‡ and most people who use Android tend to expect nothing to necessarily make sense (these are the same people who use Windows).¶

‡ I periodically try Android devices and bounce off them because I find the UI to be obtuse or deliberately built for dark patterns. I was helping a neighbour with his new-to-him Pixel 8a and to see the pictures he had taken with his camera on the phone, he had to sign in with a Google account — and then we disabled the backup because he didn't actually care to back up the photos (they are ephemeral for his purposes). It took 45 minutes to figure this out because the settings and controls can only be set when you have already signed into the damned account.

¶ I am not saying that the people who expect nothing from Android would find iOS any better; they have just been trained through decades of bad UI/UX in Windows and Android (because they're cheaper) to understand that they have to fight with their computing devices to get anything done, so they don't expect anything better … and is it ever delivered to them, in spades. Flutter, here, does not help — but at least it doesn't clash with the fifteen different "platform" styles on your typical Samsung Android device.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by saintfire »

yapyap wrote: post #621
basisword wrote: post #546

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Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

I think calling it just "color of the bubble" downplays the intentional degredation of chat quality for everyone in the chat in order to encourage exclusion, presumably to create FOMO. Incidentally FOMO is a very powerful among youth, but it's still a thing for any group in some capacity.

Not that I personally cared, as i see it as an Apple flaw, but in joining a work iMessage group I had people whining about image quality and whatever other features were disabled between iMessage users while I was present.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by mmcclure »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #529
bossyTeacher wrote: post #489

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It's the same. They are all walled gardens (whether hardware walled gardens or software walled gardens)

As much I deeply dislike Meta, it's not the same. I can simply open the Play store install facebook or Instagram. For the Apple walled garden, I need to spend $800+ USD

It feels like everyone's talking past each other in a big way on this thread. You don't need an Apple Device to participate in one of these events. At most you might need an iCloud account, which, (imo) is pretty much the same as Meta and crew.

Unrelated to that point, as other posters have called out, folks pretty consistently overstate the cost of Apple hardware relative to peers. You can spend $800 on a new iPhone 16, the latest release, or half that on an iPhone SE. Both of these options are available right now on Apple.com. This feels like saying you'd need to spend $1000+ on an Android because that's how much the newest Pixel costs.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by lttlrck »

fooblaster wrote: post #616
codetrotter wrote: post #598

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> Is it easy and obvious how to share such links? I barely ever FaceTime anyone. Just now after reading your comment I opened the FaceTime app. It has two big buttons: - Create Link - New FaceTime And it showed a balloon tip under create link that said: “Invite Anyone to a Call Friends with Android and Windows devices can join a FaceTime call if you share a link.” So yes, seems they actually made it about as obvious…

nothing quite like the perspective of someone from within the walled garden

It's the first button when you open FaceTime. Is that also too subjective?

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by pishpash »

calmworm wrote: post #622
yapyap wrote: post #621

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Tbf imessage also allows people to message non iOS users but apparently the ‘color of the bubble’ has been a big thing in the U.S. among youth.

The color of the bubble is, at least partially, a security feature for me. When it’s blue, I am certain there is a person on the other end, not a bot, spammer, ai, etc…

Except it guarantees nothing of the sort.
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