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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Chilko »

Mindwipe wrote: post #104
cleverwebble wrote: post #51

I'm in my mid-thirties and most of my friends have ditched Facebook. I didn't really realize this until when I used it to create an event for a house party... I was somewhat surprised that only 2 people out of 15 even saw it. I ended up resorting to good old text message and that worked, but it was tedious. Not sure how popular this will become, but having a social-media-less event invite/broadcasting system would be…

I don't think it's that they've entirely ditched FB, but FB is genuinely terrible at surfacing event invites. It would prefer you to have to scroll through a bunch of irrelevant garbage in your feed that it had "recommended" instead so the product team can high five themselves over badly designed engagement metrics rather than worry if the users don't actively despise their product.

Yep I second this, I usually find out that I've been invited to an event when someone makes a post in the event, and often not from the event invite itself.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by lmm »

yumraj wrote: post #437
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

But isn’t that the same when people and schools create effing Facebook groups and events or whatever they are called and find it hard to believe that people don’t use that crap. Or create WhatsApp groups and communities and so on and on.

Facebook you can access through any browser, on any hardware, and without having to pay for it. Not remotely comparable to Apple-only stuff. $1000 or whatever an iPhone costs these days is a lot of money for some people.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by kesava »

outcoldman wrote: post #549
basisword wrote: post #546

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

Yes, but. Most of the invited folks might have an AppleID associated with their email, that they have not used for years. And invite will ask to enter the password if you have an AppleID associated.

The tussle between usability and security.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by password4321 »

latexr wrote: post #538
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

It’s possible to join FaceTime calls from a web browser. https://support.apple.com/en-us/109364 I’m not defending Apple and don’t really want to get into a discussion into how limited this FaceTime over the web is and whatnot, I do think it could and should be done better. I’m just making a specific suggestion which may ease up your burden with those friends and family.

Thanks for sharing this.

> Anyone can create a link to a FaceTime call with an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iOS 15 or later or with a Mac using macOS Monterey or later.

iOS - https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/create-a-facetime-lin...

macOS - https://support.apple.com/en-us/102215#facetimelink

Re: Apple Invites

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lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by bhelkey »

sentientslug wrote: post #142
morsecodist wrote: post #20

Unfortunately, I have to hope this doesn't see widespread adoption. If this becomes the standard it will just add to already existing social pressure to get an iPhone in the US.

To me this argument makes no sense. Apple should never introduce any new features or services to their ecosystem because it might increase “social pressure” to get an iPhone?

Antitrust laws to prevent companies from abusing their market position.

The US Department of Justice is currently suing Apple for violating those antitrust laws [1]

[1] https://www.theverge.com/24107581/doj-v-apple-antitrust-mono...

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by stephenr »

apparent wrote: post #517
alistairSH wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article… Guests can view and respond to an invitation using the new iPhone app or on the web without needing an iCloud+ subscription or an Apple Account Sounds like there’s no Apple walled garden lock-in for recipients of the Invites? Only for creating/managing them?

Just creating them. You have to have an iCloud+ subscription to be able to create them. Anyone can RSVP. When I think of people I know who have iCloud+ subscriptions, it's mostly people who thought they needed them because of the scary notifications their phones sent them about running out of their initial 5GB of storage (which of course is not enough for any modern phone). These are not people who are going to downl…

So your complaint is, "how dare they charge for a service they're offering"?

If you don't want to use it to create invitations, don't. There's zero requirement for you to have an account if others invite you to something, and it sounds kind of preposterous to complain about other people choosing to pay for a service that you can then participate with for free.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by moritonal »

But... we have CalDAV, it exists, it's open, it's right there for sods sake. There's a whole spec to allow people to accept invites, why don't they just build on that?
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