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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by HideousKojima »

mcphage wrote: post #42
HideousKojima wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stated purpose of the tariffs is to stop the flow of fentanyl into the US (which kills over 70k Americans a year). If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US then I suppose it will have accomplished its mission

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Then block all trade outright with China if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent.

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Post by maxglute »

addicted wrote: post #46
maxglute wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PRC hit back with tariffs vs Mexico/Canada buying time by conceding on border / drugs.

Mexico/Canada conceding by restating actions they had already agreed to months ago?

Conceded _more_, i.e. CAN adding fentanyl czar, whatever that entails, MX adding another 10k troops. Western reporting alleged PRC would offer restoring phase1 trade, but PRC did the opposite and counter tariffed, on energy and agriculture goods, so relative to CAN/MX it's escalating/rejecting or no sign of conceding.

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Post by Saris »

HideousKojima wrote: post #59
Saris wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a genuine question because I don't know, how do tariffs stop illegal drugs from coming in?

By conditioning the lifting of the tariffs on China stopping the fentanyl, it's really not that complicated

Gotcha, that makes sense.

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

catlikesshrimp wrote: post #58
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #32

It's like the right is doing everything they can to make the country be pissed off at them. Do they understand we still have the power to vote?

In four years. People have short memory. Feasible.

I hope you're voting more frequently than every four years bro

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by persedes »

I'm unclear on this, but to my understanding if I order of Temu, Aliexpress etc I forfeit any consumer rights that I might have in the country I reside in? E.g. if the cheap stuff burns down my house / takes out my eye [1], there's no one to blame about gross defects / QC oversight?

[1] https://www.geekwire.com/2019/lawsuit-ruling-dog-leash-purch...

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Post by reaperman »

graeme wrote: post #33
reaperman wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why stop the packages though? Just make the shipper declare a value and let the receiver pay the tariff if they want their package.

My guess is customs isn't prepared to inspect that volume of packages and would need to up their infrastructure to handle it.

The USA doesn't inspect every package -- almost all current tariffs are on the honor system. They could start by checking every 1 in 10,000 packages and then build up the system until they're spot-checking x in 100.

Customs doesn't even know what half the shit is. If I order a quarter-pound of palladium for $4,000 from China, but pay tariffs on 4 ounces of lead (say, $5), do you really think customs can tell the difference? They open the package, see a chunk of metal, and go "okie dokey". Yes, sometimes they'll whip out an XRP gun and double-check the alloy, but not for a completely random & arbitrary 4-ounce package.

This will happen for every. single. product.

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Post by 999900000999 »

xnx wrote: post #43
999900000999 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

Bezos donations to Trump are taking money right out of our pockets and putting it in his.

People started realizing Temu/AliExpress/Shen are literally selling the same exact stuff.

Now Amazon is going to get their 50% markup. I'm literally going to just stop buying a lot of stuff if this policy isn't reversed.

It's not like you can buy an Xbox built in Texas, this has the potential to make almost every product more expensive.

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Post by doubled112 »

TylerE wrote: post #57
queuebert wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We must buy different things.

I will absolutely concur with American products getting far worse. Everything is cost cut to the bone.

With few exceptions.

In general, if I’m going to buy something that’s going to last 2 uses, I might as well just buy the cheapest one.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by xnx »

ceejayoz wrote: post #60
xnx wrote: post #21

Bad for consumers, but seems like a very good thing for AMZN? Amazon won't have to compete against the much cheaper Temu, Aliexpress, Shein(?) etc.

Probably 80% of the listings on Amazon I see come from Chinese resellers drop shipping off AliExpress. Reverse image search usually finds the original.

I wouldn't even mind paying extra for the Amazon return policy, but I hate the dozens of listings for the same product.
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