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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by liamwire »

999900000999 wrote: post #29
xnx wrote: post #21

Bad for consumers, but seems like a very good thing for AMZN? Amazon won't have to compete against the much cheaper Temu, Aliexpress, Shein(?) etc.

Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

Admittedly I’ve not looked past the linked page, but does this stop direct importing via other means? If not, and it holds, I’d expect to quickly see a bunch of US-based importers pop up very quickly just to resell onto the usual channels.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by mcphage »

HideousKojima wrote: post #34
ppollaki wrote: post #11

[flagged]

The stated purpose of the tariffs is to stop the flow of fentanyl into the US (which kills over 70k Americans a year). If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US then I suppose it will have accomplished its mission

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US

What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by xnx »

999900000999 wrote: post #29
xnx wrote: post #21

Bad for consumers, but seems like a very good thing for AMZN? Amazon won't have to compete against the much cheaper Temu, Aliexpress, Shein(?) etc.

Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

Bezos donations to Trump are taking money right out of our pockets and putting it in his.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by addicted »

999900000999 wrote: post #29
xnx wrote: post #21

Bad for consumers, but seems like a very good thing for AMZN? Amazon won't have to compete against the much cheaper Temu, Aliexpress, Shein(?) etc.

Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

> We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US

Not said often enough is that we DONT WANT to make much of this stuff in the US.

People seriously don’t get how remarkable it is that the U.S. is able to get other countries to send them actual usable stuff in return for pieces of paper that the U.S. prints. And how much richer this makes Americans.

I don’t believe the U.S. should be fully free market. Clearly it went too far away from industrialization to the point that the U.S. was reliant on China for critical stuff and has lost the capacity to scale if it needs to. The CHIPS act was the first tiny step towards changing this.

But these actions and the industries targeted needed to be strategic and not random.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by addicted »

maxglute wrote: post #26
abrookewood wrote: post #7

Any idea why?? Presumably the tariff/trade debate?

PRC hit back with tariffs vs Mexico/Canada buying time by conceding on border / drugs.

Mexico/Canada conceding by restating actions they had already agreed to months ago?

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by nyjah »

999900000999 wrote: post #29
xnx wrote: post #21

Bad for consumers, but seems like a very good thing for AMZN? Amazon won't have to compete against the much cheaper Temu, Aliexpress, Shein(?) etc.

Cheaper and better. This country is so painfully stupid. Now I have to pay 2x as much for inferior products, if not the same exact stuff imported by an American company. This alone is probably going to cost me about 1000$ to 2000$ per year. We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US. For example I just ordered a guitar bag, 15$ direct from China. The same exact bag, made in the same exact factory is go…

The other issue is American quality has gone down the tank. 10-15 years ago I’d look for American quality over Chinese, but nowadays I prefer the Chinese manufacturer almost 100% of the time. Not always the case but anecdotally chinas quality has gotten better while American stuff has gotten worse.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF »

HideousKojima wrote: post #34
ppollaki wrote: post #11

[flagged]

The stated purpose of the tariffs is to stop the flow of fentanyl into the US (which kills over 70k Americans a year). If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US then I suppose it will have accomplished its mission

I don't believe the stated purpose of the tariffs because the stated purpose (or lack thereof) from all the other new policies are nonsense

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by icegreentea2 »

Saris wrote: post #37
HideousKojima wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stated purpose of the tariffs is to stop the flow of fentanyl into the US (which kills over 70k Americans a year). If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US then I suppose it will have accomplished its mission

This is a genuine question because I don't know, how do tariffs stop illegal drugs from coming in?

a) You could try to use tariff's to apply pressure to the other country to get them to apply more enforcement.

b) For the specific case of removal de minimis exceptions, this could reduce shipping volume (in terms of number of individual shipments), making inspection easier/more tractable.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by mcphage »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #30

Oh, look! We've cut off shipments from China! Now you'll have to buy American. News flash: we can't afford to buy American. Why do you think we were shopping there. It's too late to fix it now - we no longer have the money or the ability to make the money to buy American and even if you gave more money to Americans, prices would just increase accordingly. Also, some of those products were paid for already. Someone ow…

> News flash: we can't afford to buy American.

Oh come on now, how much more does an iPhone made in the US cost?

Oh. Hmm.

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