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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by tonyhart7 »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

Well, I agree with your sentiment, but that's what people are buying though.

People buy iPhones because 'they're different' due to iOS, the ecosystem, etc. I mean, high-end Android devices are really on par with, if not better than, iPhones, but people still buy iPhones because they don't want to share that feeling with everyone else.

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Post by Schiendelman »

sfRattan wrote: post #595
Schiendelman wrote: post #578

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I did professional photography on the side for the better part of a decade before needing to go above 2TB. You don't have to hoard.

I agree on photos, but when I hear "larger media library" I assume we're talking video content, both family videos taken on phones and commercial media (TV and Movies). Maybe I'm misreading but either 200GB or 2TB are both very small for a whole family's collection of video media.

Are you thinking of their television shows or movies or something? That's not really a use case here.

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Post by zer0zzz »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

I hope it succeeds so that more of peoples interactions online don’t go through companies whose business model is driven by ads and impact. Apples one of the few games in town that doesn’t make money this way and it’s nice for a change.

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Post by brailsafe »

somethingsidont wrote: post #600
basisword wrote: post #546

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Just a tip but sometimes it’s good to read the article before commenting. The app allows iPhone users to create an event. Anybody on any device or browser can RSVP. The event can be shared as a link. Making an event invite app that only works for users on one platform would be pointless. Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years.

"With Apple Invites, users can create and easily share invitations, RSVP, contribute to Shared Albums, and engage with Apple Music playlists." Correct me if I'm wrong: - create & share invitations: must have iCloud+ - iCloud shared albums: barebones upload/download on non-Apple devices - apple music: cross-platform, must be subscribed - RSVP: cross-platform (Apple account req'd) So yes, it "works" outside the Apple e…

The only problem I have with this, as an android user, is that there's probably no API available for someone to build an integration for other platforms if the market was there. I don't expect Apple to go and create cross platform clients for every service they put out, they're not a service first company, they're an Apple service first company.

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Post by brailsafe »

Evil_Saint wrote: post #477
Hackbraten wrote: post #464

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WhatsApp absolutely has hardware lock-in. You need to be an Apple or Google customer to use it, and you need at least one Android or iOS phone.

Wow. I assumed you could use Whatsapp on the web but you literally can't. You have to have an Android or Iphone. I guess maybe there's a way to fake it with emulators on your computer but that's a lot of work that you shouldn't need to have to do.

Well, it is tied to your phone number, idk if hardware lock in and vendor lock in are in the same camp exactly

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Post by fooblaster »

codetrotter wrote: post #598
paulryanrogers wrote: post #589

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> Also - non-Apple users have been able to join FaceTime calls via. A link for several years. Is the quality the same or even close? Is it easy and obvious how to share such links?

> Is it easy and obvious how to share such links? I barely ever FaceTime anyone. Just now after reading your comment I opened the FaceTime app. It has two big buttons: - Create Link - New FaceTime And it showed a balloon tip under create link that said: “Invite Anyone to a Call Friends with Android and Windows devices can join a FaceTime call if you share a link.” So yes, seems they actually made it about as obvious…

nothing quite like the perspective of someone from within the walled garden

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Post by jwr »

Hackbraten wrote: post #464
chippiewill wrote: post #441

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Yes, but at least those don't have hardware lock-in.

WhatsApp absolutely has hardware lock-in. You need to be an Apple or Google customer to use it, and you need at least one Android or iOS phone.

What's worse, and what people gloss over, is that you have to sync your contacts to Facebook/Meta in order to use WhatsApp. That's a lot of very private information that tells them a lot about you. There is a reason why Facebook paid bajillions for WhatsApp and maintains it, even though the communication is encrypted and there are no ads — it's not out of the goodness of their noble hearts.

But try telling this to anyone and watch their eyes glaze over in a matter of seconds.

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Post by sib »

m463 wrote: post #518
crazygringo wrote: post #501

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You have to explicitly upgrade. There's no trick as far as I can tell. And they haven't increased the price of the $0.99 tier ever, and it's been around for 8 years I think. I don't think they've ever increased the price of any storage plan in the US ever -- prices in other countries have changed but that seems to do more with currency fluctuations. Apple is known for their transparent pricing and easy cancellation.…

> There's no trick as far as I can tell. I think that is the trick. 99 cents is so innocuous, that people set up billing to allow it. People who set up their apple id without a credit card will probably attach a card to their account to get the 99 cent storage "deal". At that point, upgrading to the next tier is inevitable as phones have been steadily increasing in storage capacity. I think it would be nicer if your…

I think that nearly everyone who has an iPhone (at least who didn't get their phone deeply discounted second-hand) has a payment method set up with Apple. I don't remember the numbers from when I had to know ~5 years ago, but it was in excess of 95% in the US.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

Do you think that Evite getting more and more aggressive about getting people to pay them for sending evites was partially because they knew this was happening? Or do you think them sucking so much was what made Apple think they could fix the problem? And what do you think the poor founders of Partiful are drinking tonight?
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