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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by jonrcooper »

briandear wrote: post #376
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

I hope it succeeds. I hate FB and other “you are the product” products. I don’t care about “common standard” — I care about the best UX.

There are a ton of other options than FB at this point. Partiful is my personal favorite, and has way better features than Apple Invites has after testing.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by talldayo »

pbronez wrote: post #385
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

> Guests can view and respond to an invitation using the new iPhone app or on the web without needing an iCloud+ subscription or an Apple Account.

> Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription.

It's service slop after all.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by sithadmin »

pbronez wrote: post #385
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

> Guests can view and respond to an invitation using the new iPhone app or on the web without needing an iCloud+ subscription or an Apple Account.

If it's anything like the web version of Facetime, it's not gonna be a great experience for non-iOS users.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by wrfrmers »

echelon wrote: post #306
PaulHoule wrote: post #254

Even though "... anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device" I think this being an Apple branded service is going to make this appear exclusionary and will mean some people won't participate even if they could. I see the same risk involved with Apple TV's branding; Apple TV works great on Xbox, on NVIDIA Shield and on PC. I'm sure though there are a lot of people who just decide…

> there are a lot of people who just decide that shows like Foundation and subscriptions like MLS Season's Pass just aren't for them. This needs anti-trust breakup. Tech companies shouldn't be media giants. They're turning a once-healthy media industry into an attention economy platform play, giving it away below cost, and wringing a robust sector of the economy of its value. It's disgusting that Apple and Amazon are…

"Conglom-O: We Own You."

...Just to highlight the absurdity of the situation. Literally cartoonish corruption.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Melatonic »

nonchalantsui wrote: post #289
PaulHoule wrote: post #254

Even though "... anyone can RSVP, regardless of whether they have an Apple Account or Apple device" I think this being an Apple branded service is going to make this appear exclusionary and will mean some people won't participate even if they could. I see the same risk involved with Apple TV's branding; Apple TV works great on Xbox, on NVIDIA Shield and on PC. I'm sure though there are a lot of people who just decide…

The Apple TV one is particularly bad due to them naming the service, the box, and the app the same thing. One of them has a + tacked on, who knows which. As long as they don’t start naming other things Invite, they might avoid that issue. Although maybe they’ll name their HomePod with a screen that and we’re back to square one.

Seriously - not sure what they were thinking - but this confuses the hell out of everyone (especially if they have the Apple TV+ app installed on their smart TV directly and an Apple TV physical box hooked to the same TV)

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by echoangle »

talldayo wrote: post #359
canucker2016 wrote: post #357

I think some demographic info can be useful in judging the potential uptake. Apple iPhone ownership amongst USA teens: 2024: 87% 2019: 83% 2014: 67% https://www.iclarified.com/95177/87-of-us-teens-own-iphones-... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/piper-jaffray-completes-se... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/different-new-cool-accordi... Smartphone marketshare for iPhone in various countries: 65%: Norway 59%: Sweden…

> Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription. I really wonder what the uptake is on iCloud+ subscriptions.

Don’t you need to get iCloud+ if you want to have more than 5GB iCloud storage? I would guess it’s probably more than 80% of users.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by makeitdouble »

briandear wrote: post #376
lordofgibbons wrote: post #362

I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.

I hope it succeeds. I hate FB and other “you are the product” products. I don’t care about “common standard” — I care about the best UX.

Be the product or the caged golden goose. We sure have a choice, but I personally don't see one that much better than the other.

When Tim Cook testifies that Apple is entitled to all our digital transactions, I don't think they have a better moral stance.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by canucker2016 »

Zak wrote: post #341
pkamb wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Apple already has claimed the "friends and family network" via iMessage. Did Facebook go to a groups/influencer algorithm by choice or is it the result of IRL friend posters all moving to private chats once everyone got iPhones?

That's only true if everyone in the group has an Apple phone, which has decreasing probability with every additional member. Excluding people from a conversation because they don't have the right brand of phone would be pretty antisocial.

Unless you're a teen in the USA.

Non-iPhone users are the minority in this demographic (<= 13%), see my demographic comment elsewhere for this subject.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Salgat »

_ea1k wrote: post #374
canucker2016 wrote: post #357

I think some demographic info can be useful in judging the potential uptake. Apple iPhone ownership amongst USA teens: 2024: 87% 2019: 83% 2014: 67% https://www.iclarified.com/95177/87-of-us-teens-own-iphones-... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/piper-jaffray-completes-se... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/different-new-cool-accordi... Smartphone marketshare for iPhone in various countries: 65%: Norway 59%: Sweden…

Yeah, and they'll likely make this Appley only to create social pressure for even more uptake. Yuck

Unless you use their inferior web version that pressures you into also getting an iphone.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Melatonic »

john2x wrote: post #378
thesuitonym wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage has been compatible with RCS for months now.

A quick search suggests the Android user end needs to install 3rd party apps for it to work? Has that changed recently?

Usually you actually need to not use third party apps. RCS on Android is usually restricted to Google Messages (or maybe Samsungs built in messages app). Everyone else got the boot

You also sometimes have to enable in the settings for Android Messages (and have a supported carrier). iMessage also has an option to enable RCS but I believe its on by default in the newer versions of iOS

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