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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by chaz6 »

TZubiri wrote: post #172

>No arbitrary limits. Have as many users and store as much mail as you want. New company policy, if you need to save large files like 3d renders, please use email for storage.

According to their advanced pricing calculator at https://purelymail.com/advancedpricing you can get about 16GB for $10 per year. The price for 1000GB would be $376.65.

    $210.40 for storage, $4.00 in account fees, $112.89 for received email, $2.77 for received email bandwidth (GB), $46.53 for sent emails, $0.00 for sent email bandwidth (GB), and $0.05 in username fees.

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Post by hHdG5BVhm31Nev »

em-bee wrote: post #196
bsder wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with "+" isn't the email side. The problem with "+" is dumbass Javascript developers who use broken regexes to "validate" an email address.

right. that's very frustrating. just a few days ago i had to create another email alias because of it. + was always a legal character, right from the first SMTP RFC 822

My email for one of my CC accounts is like ...+banksucks@gmail.com because it allows plus-addressing, but doesn't like my domain.

In other words, don't worry, they'll find a way to block your email one way or another. :P

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

Kwpolska wrote: post #123
bhaney wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do I spent an hour setting up postfix and some milters on a Digital Ocean droplet around 7 years ago and it's been working fine as my personal email server with no deliverability issues or maintenance since then. I ssh in every few years to try out a new spam filter or something and maybe upgrade some packages if I feel like it. These days there are even easier mai…

Setting up a mail server isn't hard. Making it trustworthy enough for Gmail, Yahoo, or Outlook.com to accept your messages and not put them in the spam folder is the hard part. Especially if whoever had your IP address previously was sending spam.

This!

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by riezebos »

rstuart4133 wrote: post #203
riezebos wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I can tell Fastmail comes pretty close, I have as many email addresses as I want on multiple domains and a bunch of routing rules for €4/mo.

How do you do that on Fastmail? I only see per email address pricing with each email address cost close to what you pay.

Oh, maybe I didn't mean the same as you. I can create as many email addresses as I want, but they all go to the same inbox. Multiple inboxes would cost more.

In the pricing page it is listed in the "Individual" plan as "+ Extra email addresses for personal and work".

Edit: It is possible to create an extra email address and set it up so that all emails it receives are sent to a different external email address

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

micw wrote: post #125
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #77

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I have heard this a lot of times but self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do , sure if you are masochist then do it , but if you are a working functional part of society , not recommended.

I really have an issue with that. On the one hand, it's just wrong. Self-hosting mail is not easy because you need to learn how things work. But it's far from being "one of the hardest things to do", even in the domain of hosting things. A properly set up mail server will seamlessly send mails to almost any other MTA. The only large exception is microsoft. The abuse their market power by black-list all new MTAs by de…

Agreed , I don't know two things about mail (use proton mail) , but I don't own any servers .

But I still self host stuff using docker (shiori etc.)

I mean , see there is a difference in complexity.

Like if you want to self host supabase , its complex , but its still automatable by a docker compose.

About Mails?? I am just not sure! , Maybe I shouldn't have expressed this opinion on the internet. I was just regurtitating what I heard from r/selfhosted feeds about email where they constantly said this. They even provided some explaination (see the message to which I said "this!!" , because that's what I meant.

Maybe even what you said about microsoft. But still , I really really don't want to take any risks with the mail , like what if a critical message of email doesn't come? I don't even want to know!!

I personally just believe that due to these reasons , that mail is just an old wagon which is riding into the future. I personally would prefer mail alternatives like xmpp / (preferably matrix!!)

I know matrix self hosting can take quite some resources but I do believe that the protocol in my honest opinion could be much more better for self hosting.

Just my two cents.

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Post by freeone3000 »

magicalhippo wrote: post #134
freeone3000 wrote: post #111

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they offer a web client, so, they already have decryption keys for your email. They should just offer IMAPS like everybody else and stop pretending they couldn’t read your email if they wanted to.

They say[1] they only store subject line and to/from addresses accessible to them. This should be sufficient to implement a web client which does client-side decryption of the content, in which case they indeed could not read the contents. And they do have the IMAP bridge, I've been using it for a year with Thunderbird without any issues so far. [1]: https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained

The client-side decryption works by using a key sent by protonmail. Proton has this key, because they sent it to you.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by monkeywork »

swaits wrote: post #183
dsissitka wrote: post #107

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It looks like standalone Proton Mail might still be available: https://proton.me/mail/pricing

Oh didn't know that. And at $10/month. So the same price as in this advertisement pretending to be a blog post.

.. umm no

Proton $10 per month Purely $10 per year.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by mydoghasworms »

nickweb wrote: post #177

I'm genuinely surprised no one has mentioned mxroute[1]. Thier pricing normally is pretty decent, but they keep the BF deals going pretty much all year [2]. I've been using them for 6 years with no issues. I use it now with all my domains and never have any deliverability issues. The owner (Jar - one person shop again) is passionate about their email reputation for deliverability and is active on both lowendtalk and…

Their black Friday special does not seem to work (at present, anyway). I followed the .blackfriday link, tried to sign up and got a notice that "Black Friday 2024 - BF2024 Small plan is currently unavailable". Also, on the .blackfriday site, when they say "Price: $15 / 3 years", do they mean $15 per year for three years, or $15 for three years?

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by Sami_Lehtinen »

sethammons wrote: post #159
em-bee wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nope, exactly this feature you describe is what i am referring to. it's not a gmail invention. not by a long shot.

Not a gmail invention perhaps, but also not per RFC. That some use it to mean something special is not in the RFC. Actually, a significant number of SMTP servers don't even implement the required parts of the related RFCs, let alone fancy things like plus handling.

Agreed, most of email servers and services are broken per RFC. I've blogged about this over and over again.
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