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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #77
77pt77 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is deliverability? Because for $11/year you can get a simple kvm machine and run your own servers.

I have heard this a lot of times but self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do , sure if you are masochist then do it , but if you are a working functional part of society , not recommended.

I installed Mailinabox [1] four years ago. There was one annoying upgrade, whose process needs to improved, but outside of that haven't touched anything. Only a couple of random domains where email delivery has failed. Otherwise, it just delivers to all the big providers.

[1] https://mailinabox.email/

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #77
77pt77 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is deliverability? Because for $11/year you can get a simple kvm machine and run your own servers.

I have heard this a lot of times but self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do , sure if you are masochist then do it , but if you are a working functional part of society , not recommended.

As someone that's self-hosted email for years, I don't think it's that hard. There's plenty of great solutions that make it easy. Sure, there are footguns, but they are well known and easy to avoid.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by defanor »

brokegrammer wrote: post #30
nomilk wrote: post #27

How difficult is exporting from one provider into another (e.g. from gmail into proton or purely)? I guess normies like me are a bit hesitant due to the risk of messing it up (would be a disaster to lose years of emails, as some are important for record-keeping). Curious to hear from people who've done(/attempted) it and how it went? Was it hard? Were there risks? Any regrets?

If your provider supports IMAP, you can use imapsync https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ to sync emails between two mail boxes. I did it a few times and it was straightforward.

For libre options available from Linux distributions' repositories, see isync (aka mbsync) and offlineimap. And mail clients in general should be able to handle IMAP and standard formats (Maildir, mbox). If one cares about mail backups, it is also useful to archive and backup one's mail in one of those standard and portable formats, and/or to synchronize between multiple machines regularly.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by homarp »

jurgenaut23 wrote: post #90
notepad0x90 wrote: post #89

Delaware incorporation is the norm, but for anyone who cares about dragnet surveillance, the state of incorporation is important, as well as the country. Proton also does end-to-end encrypted email and supposedly, your emails are never stored decrypted, they are decrypted in your browser and in ingress/egress out of their environment. They're also hosting in switzerland. That said, like many, I also am looking for an…

What kind of commentary are you referring to?

see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42837181

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by thayne »

qingcharles wrote: post #46
mometsi wrote: post #4

Seems like a reasonable alternative to Proton for multiple domains: email that costs money instead of being haunted by AI. That logo is creepy though, and implies exactly the opposite.

Fastmail seems to let me have unlimited domains for like $5/mo

Which is 6 times more than purelymail.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by [deleted] »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #89

Delaware incorporation is the norm, but for anyone who cares about dragnet surveillance, the state of incorporation is important, as well as the country. Proton also does end-to-end encrypted email and supposedly, your emails are never stored decrypted, they are decrypted in your browser and in ingress/egress out of their environment. They're also hosting in switzerland. That said, like many, I also am looking for an…

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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by bhaney »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #77
77pt77 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is deliverability? Because for $11/year you can get a simple kvm machine and run your own servers.

I have heard this a lot of times but self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do , sure if you are masochist then do it , but if you are a working functional part of society , not recommended.

> self hosting email is one of the hardest things to do

I spent an hour setting up postfix and some milters on a Digital Ocean droplet around 7 years ago and it's been working fine as my personal email server with no deliverability issues or maintenance since then. I ssh in every few years to try out a new spam filter or something and maybe upgrade some packages if I feel like it. These days there are even easier mail-in-a-box style turnkey deployments that work just as well but don't need as much knowledge or setup as bare postfix.

At this point, the biggest barrier to self-hosting email is the deafening cries of people who don't know what they're talking about parroting how impossible it is to do.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by kseistrup »

This would be a nice transport/storage backend for DeltaChat, as it seems there are no limits for number of incoming and outgoing emails. In DeltaChat most messages are very short, but if you're chatting in a group it may incur a lot of emails in both directions.

Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

nomilk wrote: post #27

How difficult is exporting from one provider into another (e.g. from gmail into proton or purely)? I guess normies like me are a bit hesitant due to the risk of messing it up (would be a disaster to lose years of emails, as some are important for record-keeping). Curious to hear from people who've done(/attempted) it and how it went? Was it hard? Were there risks? Any regrets?

Pretty much every "normie" should download and setup an email client like Thunderbird. You can open it once a month or so to let all the emails download to your own computer. Possibly backed up by some cloud service.

Should be sufficient unless you lose your computer and your email account gets blocked at the same time.

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