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String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by searealist »

codr7 wrote: post #120
searealist wrote: post #86

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> If you sound like you're attacking trans people, that's going to end badly. If you sound like you're supporting them, especially as this new US administration takes off... that's going to end badly. That’s not true: 99% percent of news outlets have absolutely no fear supporting trans activism. It’s trivial to find hundreds of such cases from sfgate with a google search.

No fear yet, that may change instantly, just like it did the other way.

I don’t agree, but that’s off-topic unless you believe sfgate is specifically afraid today.

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by codr7 »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #42
zozbot234 wrote: post #34

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A far more likely possibility is that their ideology is actually centered around "Sith who happen to originate from Vega (a.k.a. α Lyrae )", not "Sith who abstain from animal products". (A residual possibility is "Sith from Las Vegas, Nevada".)

I don't think so. The people specifically are vegan, and their leader believes that future AI overlords will punish people retroactively for their moral failings. This is reported in some of the other posts on this page. It's wild, but a view that is is fairly widely discussed in the rationality community, but only taken seriously by Fringe groups.[1] My question is what Sith meant to them https://en.m.wikipedia.org/…

But punishing humans for killing animals isn't a very rational thing to do, is it? Sounds 100% emotional to me, and emotions computers do not have.

I guess if we spew enough of this BS onto the internet, AI could work it from there, but calling that rational doesn't make much sense to me.

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

postepowanieadm wrote: post #80
slooonz wrote: post #77

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> I don't think most rationalists would consider themselves leftist Yes they do. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf5FqX6XBJlfOShMd3U...

Does it really matter? Nazis called themselves socialists.

no true scotsman

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by pembrook »

What I find interesting about these cases and the seemingly unrelated United Healthcare CEO assassination is that all were committed by extremely online data scientists who went to elite universities.

I’ve been fairly skeptical of the right wing narrative that these schools have been “radicalized” (seeing as universities and young people have always been the hotbeds of leftist thought, how soon we forget the hippie movement)…but this definitely has me wondering.

Also, why is data science a common thread?

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by codr7 »

silexia wrote: post #112
romaaeterna wrote: post #64

These people? https://nypost.com/2025/01/30/us-news/killing-of-border-patr... Is the appellation in the headline, "radical vegan trans cult," a true description? > Authorities now say the guns used by Youngblut and Bauckholt are owned by a person of interest in other murders — and connected to a mysterious cult of transgender “geniuses” who follow a trans leader named Jack LaSota, also known by the alias “Ziz.” Is al…

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Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by codr7 »

searealist wrote: post #121
codr7 wrote: post #120

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No fear yet, that may change instantly, just like it did the other way.

I don’t agree, but that’s off-topic unless you believe sfgate is specifically afraid today.

Why wouldn't it change just as instantly the other way?

They're like grass in the wind, always betting on the winning team.

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by codr7 »

derbOac wrote: post #70
oguz-ismail wrote: post #53

How does a 27-year-old fail to kill an 80-year-old with a samurai sword?

I've worked professionally on cases that have parallels. It suffices to say people sometimes have second thoughts in the moment.

More like life is messy and difficult compared to pretending.

Re: String of recent killings linked to Bay Area 'Zizians'

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Post by searealist »

codr7 wrote: post #128
searealist wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t agree, but that’s off-topic unless you believe sfgate is specifically afraid today.

Why wouldn't it change just as instantly the other way? They're like grass in the wind, always betting on the winning team.

I have no interest in engaging in an off-topic political discussion.
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