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ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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The author focuses on their experience as a teen with ADHD, but having been a parent of three teenagers, and having been a teenager myself, I think that the educational system is generally asking something of teenagers that they (the teenagers) can't yet provide.

But that is minor compared to how badly some classes are taught. Every time I've helped one of my children with a class in which they were genuinely struggling I realized that the instructor was not capable of teaching the material (usually because they assumed the students already knew what they were talking about).

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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As a parent of kids with ADHD I've come to believe that it is disabling in two ways: an actual deficit in attention that makes it more difficult to complete tasks AND an incompatibility with an inflexible society.

I see both of these in my kids' experience at school:

The true deficit can be seen in inability to complete schoolwork on time. Sure, homework is artificial, but I have no doubt the same difficulties would apply to - say - planting and harvesting crops on a schedule

The societal incompatibility is seen in relatively benign "behavior issues" like difficulty sitting still. The idea that children should sit at attention for hours seems bizarre unless you accept that school is training an obedient factory/cubical workforce.

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All three of my kids are neurodivergent. If they have suffered from my parenting, they are more than welcome to blame me. Sure, parenting kids with ADHD or Autism or whatever else is hard, but that doesn't make one a Saint and therefore unassailable. If comeuppance is due, it's due.

I agree, I mean that it is almost impossible not to fail at from the child’s perspective. I blame the structure of society for this. When kid wants to spend time with animals, friends and just be in nature - we can only offer more classes and screens.

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Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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As a neuroatypical I feel this. But also society has to happen, even if I am at the outskirts of it. As a neuroatypical parent of a neuroatypical children, I still have to guide them understanding the structures and expectations of society, and I see often time that she resents me for it, as the autor resent their upbringing. Society just don't care, and blaming parent for trying to impart that lesson is harsh, and w…

> As a neuroatypical parent of a neuroatypical children, I still have to guide them understanding the structures and expectations of society, and I see often time that she resents me for it, as the autor resent their upbringing.

I think where a lot of parents go wrong is representing things as "because I said so" when in fact, there is a very good reason for what the parent is doing and explaining that reason to the child would both reduce resentment and be more valuable than the discipline being given. And the corollary to that is, if you can't explain to your child why you're doing something they don't like, maybe what you're doing isn't actually good parenting.

"Society expects this, society is probably wrong and it isn't fair, but it's not within our immediate capability to change it so we have to find ways to function around society's expectations at the current time" is a hugely valuable lesson to teach kids.

Without this explanation, your kid just has to come up with their own explanation for why you're doing what you're doing, and a lot of the time they're just going to conclude that you're wrong or you're just being mean, which unfortunately is sometimes true with some parents (I'm not saying it's true of you).

And sometimes, with the explanation, you're still going to be wrong, and you may never figure that out what you did wrong. But at least if you've explained why you did what you did, your child understands that so when they begin the process of realizing their parents aren't perfect they have some reason to empathize for the mistakes you made.

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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As a neuroatypical I feel this. But also society has to happen, even if I am at the outskirts of it. As a neuroatypical parent of a neuroatypical children, I still have to guide them understanding the structures and expectations of society, and I see often time that she resents me for it, as the autor resent their upbringing. Society just don't care, and blaming parent for trying to impart that lesson is harsh, and w…

Admittedly due to the recent hype about adult ADHD, I got myself tested to understand that I am likely to have it to some degree. However, it proved difficult to diagnose as I found my niche to function as part of society (if you assume that a university is no ivory tower) I had a mother that actually in hindsight devoted her life pretty much to make life work for me. Before she died she actually told my to be wife to take care of me. As much as I am thankful about having people who cover my ass, I would expect it from anyone. Also the right balance between structure and 'affirmative action' is close to impossible to find. One of the most important things though my mother told me over and over as a child was that I should not compare myself to others and that I am in the end responsible for myself (also to find my place in society)

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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What you have here is essentially a tragedy.

I totally sympathize with the author as someone who is (probably) neurodivergent but had accommodating parents. Being given space to better understand myself and my value was integral to my success and in being ok being different.

But as a dad to a neurodivergent kid, I impose structure - sometimes to discomfort, never intentionally to pain - because structure is imposed upon us all. I mean, if I could stop time, that would fix most of the issues with my kid’s ADHD. Same if I could make less the impositions of having to do chores, or to eat, sleep, bathe. But there is no easy escape from those things. So, I impose, despite not wanting to, because the imposition is coming anyway.

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

#28

(Disclaimer: not discussing the author here. These are the thoughts based on personal experiences, resurfaced as the result of reading the post) Planning for the past (what if my parents would do things differently?) is a sign of depression (not clinical advice). Blaming the parents is not productive and doesn't lead to solutions to the problems at hand. For me, taking responsibility on deciding what needs to be done…

Blaming yourself for things that aren't your fault is also a sign of depression, not productive, and doesn't lead to solutions to the problem at hand. I think we probably agree that blame just isn't the ideal way to approach problems and the end goal would be to not include blame in the thought process at all. But for someone who is blaming themselves for everything, placing blame appropriately can be a step toward rebuilding some self-esteem.

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

#29
If ADHD is genetic, which I believe it is, then the odds are the parents have their own problems as well - and these problems can manifest in a wide variety of dysfunctions.

My parents are awful people but having lived through ADHD and chronic fatigue I no longer blame them for who they are. Knowing that they would have been going through something similar when they were my age I understand how tough it must have been for them. The internet is what saved me from becoming a full time asshole, without the internet my parents just had gaslighting from doctors. The amount of pain and suffering that you don’t know isn’t normal because everyone is telling you it is, is enough to make anyone an asshole no matter how much they fight it, it’s not a choice.

Re: ADHD Didn't Break Me–My Parents Did

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The person blaming his parents because they tried to do their job of, well, parenting a child with ADHD. I’ve read that psychotherapy is much more difficult when there is no-one to blame. So it might help for him, until he will have his own kids with ADHD and fail in a completely opposite way. I would not recommend anyone to blame parents of neurodivergent kids, as it is a very difficult job to do right.

The point is: there isn't a "right" way. That's exactly what the author is trying to say. By failing to recognize the ways in which they were different, they forced a mode upon them and here we are. A whole medicalized generation addicted to stimulants trying to fit in where in past generations you had artists and rebels and seekers and every other kind of misfit that made life interesting and unique and challenging…

> in past generations you had artists and rebels and seekers and every other kind of misfit that made life interesting and unique and challenging to the status quo

I get what you’re saying, but parents of ADHD children are looking to help them become adults that can function in society and be independent without the struggles that are often accompanied with ADHD: addiction and self-destructive choices.

A lot of the types of people that you mention — rebels, seekers, misfits — I feel are generally less happy individuals, and might chose a different path for themselves if they had the right opportunities and tools.

Sure they might make life interesting for others, and maybe “interesting” is a word they might describe for their own life. And what often makes them “interesting”, looking from the outside, is that they are addicted and/or self-destructive.

But are they ultimately happy, and is it the life they really wanted for themselves?

That’s what parents struggle with. If they know their child will be happy with addiction, self-destruction, and being “interesting”, maybe it would be easier to not worry about or try to help them with their struggles with ADHD.

But most parents think their children will want a different life, and so they also want that for them.

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