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GenAI Art Is the Least Imaginative Use of AI Imaginable

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Re: GenAI Art Is the Least Imaginative Use of AI Imaginable

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Post by TZubiri »

skybrian wrote: post #10
Kuinox wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some current gen ai can generate images, in real time, how that's not enough interactive ?

Can they fill the screen with 20 variations nearly instantly? If so, I'd like to see that.

So we experience a marvellous breakthrough in technology and your big complaint is that it's not fast or voluminous enough, and your big idea is to make (demand) more of it?

There's million of useful stuff you can create with what you are given. Do not chose to complain about what you have and demand more.

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Post by redeux »

GenAI is not capable of making art. Self expression is not only inherent in art, it’s essential. What AI does is make pretty pictures, but nothing more. It’s not a tool for making art because it removes the means for artistic expression. It’s possible for someone to make art from GenAI outputs, but that requires taking artistic liberties post generation.

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Post by spencerflem »

Filligree wrote: post #37
spencerflem wrote: post #21

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most ai art is bland and worthless and has no meaning behind it. im not postmodern enough to say its all the struggle, but regardless of if AI us used or not I expect the artist to have some idea of what they're trying to do or say, and typing a sentence into a box ain't it

95% of everything is shit. That doesn’t make the remaining five percent worthless.

i would prefer instead of an ai stock photo, an ugly unprofessional doodle. that would tell me something about the person drawing it, how they see the world, and if its bad at least its human.

ai stock photos also tell me something about the person making it and not much about it is endearing

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Post by andrepd »

jedberg wrote: post #34

Of all the things I do with AI, art is probably the one I do the most. When you create written content on the internet, "the algorithm" rewards you more if you add art to it. I am not an artist, but I can write good. So when I'm done writing, I pop over to my AI image generator, describe a few images I want, pop them into the post, and away I go! And then boom, greater engagement. As an added bonus, I don't have to w…

Isn't it amazing when a good chunk of monetary incentive in the present day is directed towards the terrifying concept of "engagement"?

Re: GenAI Art Is the Least Imaginative Use of AI Imaginable

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Post by packetlost »

noman-land wrote: post #18
CephalopodMD wrote: post #15

I feel the same way about using nfts to sell jpegs on the internet

What about NFTs as registrations for domain names a la ens.domains?

I think there are some good uses for NFTs (and other token stuff), and this is one. The stupid jpegs thing is just... uhg, it's dumb and it's sad that that is where the technology went.

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Post by crucialfelix »

> “I am going up to Princeton to start grad school in computer science.” I replied, “I want to build the world’s most advanced automated music composition machine.” > The guitarist studied me for a moment and asked, succinct and earnest, “What’s the point?”

Strongly agree. The whole point of music is the process of making it. That doesn't mean we can't repurpose generative systems, hack them until they do something fresh and expressive.

Around about the same time (2001) I visited Princeton and gave a presentation of my music generation system built in Super Collider. I jokingly stated that I wanted to eventually just press a button and have it spit out a hit song. Composer Paul Lansky scowled when I said that!

I also got a chance to sit in classes with Perry Cook (mentioned in the article) and he was the best professor I've ever seen. Really inspirational.

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Post by Mistletoe »

0xcafefood wrote: post #45

No, Chatbot All The Things is the least imaginative use of "AI." There's even a chatbot to search your Chrome history [1]. Nothing screams solution in search of a problem more than this. [1] https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/15248971

Google Photos just added this completely subpar feature for how I have to search my photos in the app. -.-

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Post by sunshinesnacks »

moffkalast wrote: post #31
asdff wrote: post #13

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That is not the tradeoff being made. When you go from a home without a dishwasher to one with a dishwasher, you don't work more or less hours as an engineer at JPL. You work the same hours. Likewise for someone who does their housecleaning by hand or one that hires housecleaners, the latter doesn't start working 50 hour shifts at the office in response. Then the question is what are people doing with the extra time?…

Perhaps that was a bad example since it's too much of a person-by-person thing (for myself I can definitely say I get more done if I don't have to spend hours on chores), but the fact that we can as a society actually do anything at all beyond just surviving is down to tractors and combine harvesters, so 98% of us don't have to work in food production anymore. The base level of complete chore automation that we've ap…

My chemical engineer friends like to point out that the Haber-Bosch process has doubled global food production, or something like that. In the same “industrial agriculture” category as tractors and combines.
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