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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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lolinder wrote: post #129
zamadatix wrote: post #102

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The -mini postfix makes perfect sense, probably even clearer than the old "turbo" wording. Naturally, the latest small model may be better than larger older models... but not always and not necessarily in everything. What you'd expect from a -mini model is exactly what is delivered. The non-reasoning line was also pretty straightforward. Newer base models get a larger prefix number and some postfixes like 'o' were ad…

> I wonder if we'll end up with both a 4o and o4... The perplexing thing is that someone has to have said that, right? It has to have been brought up in some meeting when they were brainstorming names that if you have 4o and o1 with the intention of incrementing o1 you'll eventually end up with an o4. Where they really went off the rails was not just bailing when they realized they couldn't use o2. In that moment the…

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by optimalsolver »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #145
koakuma-chan wrote: post #101

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Name is just a label. It's not supposed to mean anything.

There is no such thing. "Meaning" isn't a property of a label, it arises from how that label is used with other labels in communication. It's actually the reason LLMs work in the first place.

You're gonna need to ground those labels in something physical at some point.

No one's going to let an LLM near anything important until then.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by johanvts »

ks2048 wrote: post #25

I think OpenAI should just have a single public facing "model" - all these names and versions are confusing. Imagine if Google, during it's accent, had a huge array of search engines with code names and notes about what it's doing behind the scenes. No, you open the page and type in box. If they can make it work better next month, great. (I understand this could not apply to developers or enterprise-type API usage).

Thats the role of ChatGPT?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by Gracana »

thot_experiment wrote: post #148
Gooblebrai wrote: post #126

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You mean it reacts to you writing something while it's thinking of that you can stop it while it's thinking?

Fundamentally the UI is up to you, I have a "typing-pauses-inference-and-starts-gaslighting" feature in my homebrew frontend, but in OpenWebUI/Sillytavern you can just pause it and edit the chain of thought and then have it continue from the edit.

That's a great idea. In your frontend, do you write in the same text entry field as the bot? I use oobabooga/text-generation-webui and I findit's a little awkward to edit the bot responses.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by TechDebtDevin »

GoatInGrey wrote: post #155
yapyap wrote: post #114

They sure scrambled something together after DeepSeek sweeped the market.

Indeed. Everyone knows that one can cobble together a frontier model and deploy it within three weeks.

Not to mention the model has been available to researchers for a month.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by bobxmax »

marko-k wrote: post #144
thorum wrote: post #128

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Not really. They’re successful because they created one of the most interesting products in human history, not because they have any idea how to brand it.

If that were the case, they’d be neck and neck with Anthropic and Claude. But ChatGPT has far more market share and name recognition, especially among normies. Branding clearly plays a huge role.

I think that has more to do with the multiple year head start and multiple tens of billions of dollars in funding advantage.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ryandrake wrote: post #147
ninetyninenine wrote: post #98

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Let’s call it “O5 Pro Max Elite”—because if nonsense naming works for smartphones, why not AI models?

O5 Pro Max Elite Enterprise Edition with Ultra

Maybe they could start selling "season passes" next to make their offering even more clear!

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by joshstrange »

marko-k wrote: post #144
thorum wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. They’re successful because they created one of the most interesting products in human history, not because they have any idea how to brand it.

If that were the case, they’d be neck and neck with Anthropic and Claude. But ChatGPT has far more market share and name recognition, especially among normies. Branding clearly plays a huge role.

And you think that is due to their model naming?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by jtwaleson »

layer8 wrote: post #75
ryanhecht wrote: post #39

> While OpenAI o1 remains our broader general knowledge reasoning model, OpenAI o3-mini provides a specialized alternative for technical domains requiring precision and speed. I feel like this naming scheme is growing a little tired. o1 is for general knowledge reasoning, o3-mini replaces o1-mini but might be more specialized than o1 for certain technical domains...the "o" in "4o" is for "omni" (referring to its mult…

Inscrutable naming is a proven strategy for muddying the waters.

Salesforce would like a word...
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