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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Have you tried seeing what happens when you speak to it about topics which are considered politically sensitive in the PRC?

R1 (70B-distill) itself is very uncensored, will give you full account of tiannanmen square from vague prompts. Asking R1 "what significant things happened in china in 1989" had it volunteering that "the death toll was in the hundreds or thousands and the exact number remains disputed to this day". The only thing that's censored is the web interface.

When asking it about the concept of human rights and the various forms in which it manifests (i.e. demographic equality under the law). I get a mixture of mundane nuance and bizarre answers that Xi Jingping himself could have written. With references to unity and the importance of social harmony over the "freedoms of the few".

This tracks when considering that the model was trained on western model outputs and then tuned post-training to (poorly) align it with Chinese values.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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They really need someone in marketing. If the model is for technical stuff, then call it the technical model. How is anyone supposed to know what these model names mean? The only page of theirs attempting to explain this is a total disaster. https://platform.openai.com/docs/models

Yes, this $300Bn company generating +$3.4Bn in revenue needs to hire marketing expert. They can begin by sourcing ideas from us here to save their struggling business from total marketing disaster.

>this $300Bn company

Watch this space.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Running it locally lets you INTERJECT IN IT'S THINKING IN REALTIME and I cannot stress enough how useful that is.

You mean it reacts to you writing something while it's thinking of that you can stop it while it's thinking?

You can stop it at any time, then modify what it's written so far...then press continue and let it continue thinking and answering.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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This is definitely intentional. You can like Sama or dislike him, but he knows how to market a product. Maybe this is a bad call on his part, but it is a call.

Not really. They’re successful because they created one of the most interesting products in human history, not because they have any idea how to brand it.

If that were the case, they’d be neck and neck with Anthropic and Claude. But ChatGPT has far more market share and name recognition, especially among normies. Branding clearly plays a huge role.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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They really need someone in marketing. If the model is for technical stuff, then call it the technical model. How is anyone supposed to know what these model names mean? The only page of theirs attempting to explain this is a total disaster. https://platform.openai.com/docs/models

Name is just a label. It's not supposed to mean anything.

There is no such thing. "Meaning" isn't a property of a label, it arises from how that label is used with other labels in communication.

It's actually the reason LLMs work in the first place.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Running it locally lets you INTERJECT IN IT'S THINKING IN REALTIME and I cannot stress enough how useful that is.

You mean it reacts to you writing something while it's thinking of that you can stop it while it's thinking?

Fundamentally the UI is up to you, I have a "typing-pauses-inference-and-starts-gaslighting" feature in my homebrew frontend, but in OpenWebUI/Sillytavern you can just pause it and edit the chain of thought and then have it continue from the edit.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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They really need someone in marketing. If the model is for technical stuff, then call it the technical model. How is anyone supposed to know what these model names mean? The only page of theirs attempting to explain this is a total disaster. https://platform.openai.com/docs/models

If marketing terms from intel, AMD, Dell and other tech companies have taught me anything, it's that they need LESS of people in marketing.

But think of all the other marketers whose job is to produce blogspam explaining confusing product names!
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