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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by kevinsundar »

random3 wrote: post #47
kevinsundar wrote: post #38

BTW if you want to stay up to date with these kinds of updates from OpenAI you can follow them here: https://www.getchangelog.com/?service=openai.com It uses GPT-4o mini to extract updates from the website using scrapegraphai so this is kinda meta :). Maybe I'll switch to o3 mini depending on cost. It's reasoning abilities, with a lower cost than o1, could be quite powerful for web scraping.

I might be missing some context here - to what specific context does your comment refer to? I'm asking because I don't see you in the conversation and you comments seems an out of context self-promoting plug.

Hey! I'm sorry you feel that way. There's several people who have subscribed to updates to OpenAI from my comment so there is clearly value to other commenters. I understand not everyone is interested though. It's just a free side project I built and I make no money.

Additionally, I believe my contribution to the conversation is that gpt-4o-mini, the previous model advertised as low-cost, works pretty well for my use case (which in this case can help others here). I'm excited to try out gpt-03-mini depending on what the cost looks like for web scraping purposes. Happy to report back here once I try it out.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by unsupp0rted »

ryanhecht wrote: post #39

> While OpenAI o1 remains our broader general knowledge reasoning model, OpenAI o3-mini provides a specialized alternative for technical domains requiring precision and speed. I feel like this naming scheme is growing a little tired. o1 is for general knowledge reasoning, o3-mini replaces o1-mini but might be more specialized than o1 for certain technical domains...the "o" in "4o" is for "omni" (referring to its mult…

This is definitely intentional.

You can like Sama or dislike him, but he knows how to market a product. Maybe this is a bad call on his part, but it is a call.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by xeckr »

thunkingdeep wrote: post #31

I’ll take the China Deluxe instead, actually. I’ve been incredibly pleased with DeepSeek this past week. Wonderful product, I love seeing its brain when it’s thinking.

Have you tried seeing what happens when you speak to it about topics which are considered politically sensitive in the PRC?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by [deleted] »

georgewsinger wrote: post #57

Did anyone else notice that o3-mini's SWE bench dropped from 61% in the leaked System Card earlier today to 49.3% in this blog post, which puts o3-mini back in line with Claude on real-world coding tasks? Am I missing something?

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by [deleted] »

georgewsinger wrote: post #57

Did anyone else notice that o3-mini's SWE bench dropped from 61% in the leaked System Card earlier today to 49.3% in this blog post, which puts o3-mini back in line with Claude on real-world coding tasks? Am I missing something?

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Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by IMTDb »

I really don't get the point of those oX-mini models for chat apps. (API is different, we can benchmark multiple models for a given recurring taks and choose the best one taking costs into consideration). As part of my job, I am trying to promote usage of AI in my company (~150 FTE); we have an OpenAI chatGPT plus subscription for all employees.

Roughly speaking the message is: "use GPT-4o all the time, use o1 (soon o3) if you have more complex tasks". What am I supposed to answer when people ask "when am I supposed to use o3-mini ? . And what the heck is o3-mini-high, how do I know when to use it ?". People aren't gonna ask the same question to 5 different models and burn all their rate limits; yet it feels that what's openAI is hoping people will do.

Put those weirs models in a sub-menu for advanced users if you really want to, but is you can use o1 there is probably no reason for you to hake o3-mini and o3-mini-high as additional options.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by ninetyninenine »

ryanhecht wrote: post #66
ninetyninenine wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet you can get one of their models to fix that disaster.

But what would we call that model?

Let’s call it “O5 Pro Max Elite”—because if nonsense naming works for smartphones, why not AI models?

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by thot_experiment »

mechagodzilla wrote: post #63
thunkingdeep wrote: post #31

I’ll take the China Deluxe instead, actually. I’ve been incredibly pleased with DeepSeek this past week. Wonderful product, I love seeing its brain when it’s thinking.

Being able to see the thinking trace in R1 is so useful, as you can go back and see if it's getting stuck, making a wrong assumption, missing data, etc. To me that makes it materially more useful than the OpenAI reasoning models, which seem impressive, but are much harder to inspect/debug.

Running it locally lets you INTERJECT IN IT'S THINKING IN REALTIME and I cannot stress enough how useful that is.

Re: OpenAI O3-Mini

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Post by amarcheschi »

thunkingdeep wrote: post #31

I’ll take the China Deluxe instead, actually. I’ve been incredibly pleased with DeepSeek this past week. Wonderful product, I love seeing its brain when it’s thinking.

Seeing the cot can provide some insights on what's happening in his "mind" and that alone it's quite worth it imho
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